“Natural Insights Into Cancer”- Interview with Dominic Brandy, M.D.

James Egidio: 0:42

Hi, I am James Egidio, your host of the Medical Truth Podcast. The podcast that tells the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about the American healthcare system. My guest is renowned board certified cosmetic surgeon with 30 years experience and is considered a leading authority in the field of cosmetic surgery. He published more than 70 medical articles in prominent medical journals. On November 12th, 2017, his life was totally changed and turned upside down in which he had to make some life-saving and life-changing decisions. It is my pleasure an honor and a blessing to have on The Medical Truth Podcast my guest, Dr. Dominic Brandy. Hi, Dr. Brandy. How are you doing today?

Dominic Brandy: 1:29

Hey, great to be here.

James Egidio: 1:30

Thank you. Thank you. Just wanted to share with the audience viewers and listeners of the medical Truth Podcast, a little bit about yourself and your story.

Dominic Brandy: 1:41

A little background about myself. I’ve had a plastic surgery slash med spas slash anti-aging center for over 40 years, and we were a very successful practice. We had over a hundred employees. We were ranked number five in the country by Allergan, a company that makes Botox. And three years ago we had a venture capital group come in. They offered to buy my practice and I decided I would. I would sell to practice and at that point I really devoted my life 100% to cancer lifestyle coaching. Now, how did I get into cancer lifestyle coaching from plastic surgery? That started back in November of 2017. You mentioned that I got diagnosed with an incurable cancer, blood cancer. It’s called Multiple Myeloma. But my story actually began two months before that. In September of 2017, my wife and I were on a cruise. It was a two week cruise. And anytime I’m on vacation, I always read a health and nutrition book. So as soon as we got on the cruise, I went onto Kindle. There was a book that popped up called How Not to Die by Michael Gregor. If anybody’s ever seen the Hard Back, it’s about two inches thick in about an inch of it, our scientific references. And that was the thing that really intrigued me about this book as I was going through it. And the science was just showing over and over that cultures and research cohorts that ate more plant-based, had much lower incidence of cancer, cardiovascular disease, type two diabetes, dementia, really all mortality. So two days into this cruise, I tell my wife, I’m gonna start eating whole food plant-based. And she thought I was out of my mind with all this food on this cruise. And you got meat and eggs and dairy and dessert. You name it, but. From that point forward, and it’s been over five and a half years now, I have eaten whole food plant-based. So when we got home, it was the last week of September, 2017, I was in the middle of the surgery case and I felt a little pop in my right shoulder. It was in my collarbone. I didn’t think a whole lot of it, it just kept getting worse and worse. And by the last week of October, it was starting to keep me up at night. It was really starting to bother me. And I remember telling my wife, I said, Trina, you know what? I think I have bone cancer. And she said, oh, you’re the healthiest person. I know you, you’re fine. And so I blew it off. And then a week later, it was around November 10th. Exactly. November 10th, 2017, we’re watching television. I accidentally knocked. The container of water. I lunged for it, and my bone just cracked right in half. It was super painful. And it was scary. We went to an urgent care center. They x-rayed. It was completely displaced. I went to a friend of mine who’s a orthopedic guy. He ordered an MRI and it came back that I, he called me Friday. This was Friday after the Sunday that this happened. He goes, Hey. He goes, Nick, he goes I think you have a tumor in there. And it totally rocked my world. It was I don’t think anybody really knows exactly how they’re gonna react when somebody tells ’em that. It’s it totally changes your whole world, your perspective and so forth. Anyway, I had a biopsy, a bunch of different blood tests. They came up with this IgA, multiple myeloma, which is the most aggressive type of myeloma you basically have IgA, IgG, IgM. IGA is the most aggressive. IgG is in the middle, and IgM is the least aggressive and multiple myeloma isn’t incurable cancer, so they really don’t have a cure for it yet. So anyway, when I went in to see my oncologist he wanted to put me on this triple regimen of two oral medications and then another medication that I would have to go in every week and get a shot in my abdomen. It’s called Velcade. It’s Proteosome inhibitor. And the more I was reading about it, it almost everybody that gets, ends up with this pretty bad peripheral neuropathy of their feet and their hands. Because I’m a surgeon, I just didn’t want to risk that. So he pulled me into a side room. There was another patient in there and he was trying to get him to talk me into doing the Velcade. He had gone through the Velcade treatments. So I came back to my doctor and remember I had already been eating whole food plant-based for two months, and I knew it was gonna help me in this battle against this multiple myeloma. So I told my doctor, I said, Hey, doc I’m not doing the Velcade. And he was super upset. He did not think, be able to get into a complete remission just on these two medications so at that point, I really took a total dive into the scientific literature. I wanted to know every single herb I could take, every single lifestyle change that I could make that could help me in this battle. So six months came, the numbers just kept getting better and better, and I got into a complete remission and my oncologist was, totally blown away. He didn’t think I was ever gonna get into a complete remission just on these two oral medications, and I’m still on those. But it’s on a very low dose. So I’m basically in what they call a functional remission. So my numbers, in fact, I just got my numbers today. They all look perfect. Every month I have to go in and get that checked. But what happened as I was getting all this information, it was actually a year after I started my treatment January of 2019. I decided I was going to put a lecture on at one of the local hotels. And I’ve given many interviews about plastic surgery, med spa, anti-aging with a lot of the TV stations. So there’s one anchor person that I know well I called her, I said, Hey, Michelle, can. You come and do a little story about my cancer and all the different lifestyle changes I’m making I’m putting on this lecture and maybe we’ll get some people there. So she did it. It was a beautiful piece. In fact, it’s still on my website. And we were planning on maybe 50 people showing up. So it’s the day of the lecture. And people are just like coming in left and right. We ended up with 125 people there. We’re pulling chairs out of the restaurants and it was crazy. People were standing. So I gave this lecture. I was planning on it being an hour. It ended up being two hours cuz people kept asking questions. They were really super interested. There were a lot of cancer patients out there. And then when I finished I had a standing ovation and I’ve never had a standing ovation for anything in my life. I don’t know if they gave it to me because they were feeling sorry for me, or they, maybe they thought it was a great lecture. I personally think it was because the people that were out there that had cancer I think they felt that they were totally at the mercy of the drugs. The radiation the surgery. So I do think that was the reason. In fact, after the lecture, a lot of people came up to me and I remember this one lady that came up and she had multiple myeloma, like what I have and she was definitely overweight. I would even say she was probably obese. And she said, you know what, doc? She goes I asked my doctor if I should change my diet and he said, oh, just keep doing what you’re doing, you’ll be fine. And she told me, I, I just knew that wasn’t right. And that was what the gist I was getting from all the people that were coming up and asking me questions. So what I started to do after that, I was doing monthly meetings in one of my med spa. We would get, we were getting like 75, 90 people every month coming to these. I was having guest speakers come in, and as I was doing this, people kept saying, Hey Doc you have so much information, you need to write a book. So Memorial Day this is 2019. I started to wake up in the morning and I would write an every morning, and then I would do research in between. By Labor Day, I had the book completely done. I had it on Amazon first week of November, and I did a book launching second week of November. So that’s how the whole thing started. And then on my website that I developed actually right after I gave that lecture it’s called Natural Insights into cancer.com, I started doing virtual consults for people on, on that website. And then I developed an Instagram site called Cancer Veggie Doc. I have over 36,000 followers to date. But it’s really turned into a very busy proposition for me. I do a lot of virtual consultations with patients. I do coaching, I do 24 7 coaching where they have access to me through texting and email, like whenever they want. Patients really like that. They basically sign up for that on my website. And people that are going through metastatic cancer, I’m there with them almost every other day, just trying to give ’em encouragement, answering any questions that they have. So it’s really become my. Life’s journey at this point. And the, I’m 69 years old right now, and that’s my mission now to really try to help as many cancer patients as I can battle their cancer. So that’s my story.

James Egidio: 10:46

Yeah. Yeah. So let me ask you what prior to your diagnosis cuz you know, this all circles, back to of course, diet, which we’ll talk about a little deeper in detail. But what was your diet like prior to your diagnosis?

Dominic Brandy: 11:03

Remember I told you I read over 300 health and nutri. I will tell you, I was probably as confused as anybody. You go out there today on social media, the carnivore diet, the paleo diet, the keto diet, vegan people just get so confused by all of the information that’s thrown out there. And I’ll be quite honest with you, I was as confused as just about anybody, and I had to counsel patience. I had an anti-aging center, so I personally ate meat, some kind of animal product that every single meal. I bought into this whole thing that protein and animal products are the same thing. and what I learned when I read Dr. Greger’s book was that really and people need to understand this, all protein comes from plants. The amino acids are in the plants. The animals eat the plants, they take the amino acids, they make the proteins, and you eat the animals. So I, presently I get all. More than enough protein through plants. In fact I’ve checked my protein levels on a daily basis in a week, and I’m always over a hundred grams of protein and I don’t even wanna be that high, in fact, right? If you follow some of the work of Dr. Walter Longo he really has shown in, he started with Rodent studies and he’s progressed to human studies that actually when you are on a lower protein diet, it actually lowers what’s called your IGF one, which is your insulin growth factor one, and also your mtor. They are both growth factors and one of the things I get into in my book in the first chapter, what causes cancer is that as you age, you accumulate quite a number of DNA mutations. In fact, when I first got diagnosed, I read an article that totally blew my mind. It was in Nature. Dr. Mikel Munchki wrote the article. He’s a world renowned myeloma researcher, and he said, by the time you are diagnosed with what I have multiple myeloma, you have about 5,000 DNA mutations in that cancer cell wow. And by the time you relapse, you’re up to 12,000. And a lot of those mutations that occur after you get diagnosed are really from the drugs that you take. You’re getting those DNA mutations just through normal aging. But these drugs, these chemotherapeutic drugs, even these immunotherapy drugs, they do cause DNA mutations. So one of the things that I do with my patients that are in remission and they want to stay there I try to get them on a whole food plant-based diet because plants have 63 times the antioxidant power compared to animal products. And antioxidants are what? Neutralize free radicals or molecules with unpaired electrons. Our body forms trillions of those in a typical day, and you really want to keep those to a minimum because free radicals are basically what causes these DNA mutations. So eating more plant foods are really important. I take over 30 herbal supplements. Those herbal supplements are antioxidant powerhouses. So I, when I’m counseling patients, I try to get them on at least some of those. After I do my consults, I write ’em a long letter. I put the supplements that I think are the most important with the triple asterisk and the ones that are less important to asterisks and the ones that are least important one asterisks. So I think they’re really super important. And then the other precepts in my book are exercise. Exercise is really almost like a miracle drug. Especially, with breast cancer. It’s almost like it’s miraculous. There’s one study that I quote in my book, Where they looked at three different groups. These people all had breast cancer. They were in remission. One group just did brisk walking for 30 minutes a day, and they lowered their chance of relapse by 24% compared to people that didn’t exercise. Then people that ran two thirds of a mile lowered their chance of relapse by 40%, and the ones that ran 2.3 miles, they lowered their chance of a relapse by 95%. That’s all, that’s almost unbelievable. And that’s on the level of a drug. Honestly, I don’t think there’s any chemotherapy drugs that can actually do that. Yeah. So exercise is super important. It really, your immune system. In fact, one study that I quote in my book, and I always tell people this when they tell me they don’t have time to exercise, just doing six minutes of exercise, actually, Increases your natural killer cell activity. Natural killer cells are the cells that kill cancer. It, it jacks that up by 50% just in six minutes. Yeah. So if you just do something, if you do some resistance training or maybe get on the treadmill for six minutes or 10 minutes, you’re doing a lot to really boost your immune system. And then, sleep is really important. I talk about that in the book. That’s really when a lot of the DNA repair is going on. Remember I talked about all those DNA mutations, right? So while you’re sleeping, I mean your body is doing a lot of DNA repair. In fact, what’s really interesting, and I know this might sound like it’s almost like incredible to believe, but we have about 37 trillion cells in our body every day. There’s about 50 to 70 billion cells that commit cell suicide because they’re starting to turn cancerous. And the body, it basically, there’s all these tumor suppressor genes and so forth that basically make that cell kill itself. They call it apoptosis, right? So a lot of that is going on while you’re sleeping. So there’s all this DNA repair, there’s this apoptosis, autophagy where taking all this cellular debris and they’re getting rid of it, or they’re taking these proteins that are misfolded, getting rid of it or reorganizing it into new proteins. So there’s a lot going on while you’re sleeping. And then stress reduction is really important. I go through all the different ways that you can, reduce stress from breathing and so forth. But exercise is most important because what I tell people is, if you’re exercising every day, you’re gonna sleep better and you’re gonna be less stressed. So if you can. Eat at least a plant predominant diet. If you don’t feel like you can do a whole food plant-based, at least try to make it, maybe 90, 95% plant-based. And if you look at, are you familiar with the Blue Zones? At all. James?

James Egidio: 17:36

Not at all. No.

Dominic Brandy: 17:37

Yeah. The Blue Zones are the five areas of the world where people live the longest. And they’re basically Icaria, Greece, Sardinia, Nacoya, Costa Rica, Okinawa, Japan, and then Loma Linda, which is right in California. That’s where the, a lot of Seventh Day Adventist live, they’re vegetarian. But in these areas, and I always like to use Loma Linda because it’s in the United States, cuz some people say that’s a different culture in, in Koya Costa Rica, whatever. But Loma Linda smack right in the middle of California. Women live 10 years longer than their American counterparts. And men actually live 14 years longer than their American counterparts. And if you go in these areas they have about 500% more centenarians than Western countries. And. I’ve heard some critics say that’s, maybe it’s genetic in those areas. But they have found that the descendants of these people when they move to western countries, they lose about 17 years off their life compared to their their counterparts in these blue zones. Now, these blue zone areas, they all. Eat anywhere from 90 to 95% plant-based. And Dan Butner, who wrote the book called Blue Zones, and I would recommend everybody reading it. It’s an amazing book. And there’s a great cookbook. It’s called the Blue Zones Cookbook. My wife uses it all the time. Sometimes people will say he was probably just looking for plant-based countries would ever know. He did it through National Geographic. They were looking for the areas of the world where people lived the longest, and these were the five areas. And they all had that common theme. They all ate 90, 95% plant based. They moved a lot. These people basically were doing, for instance, in some of these areas like Nacoya, they’re these women 80, 85 years old. They’re carrying bushels up these mountains and so forth. So they’re moving a lot. So there’s a lot of exercise. They get good sleep. They basically wake up when the sun wakes up. And one of the things that’s really important, they have really good community. They really have good social ties. And I do think that’s really. Very important when you’re battling any kind of disease. So there, so the blue Zones are something that I always go to when I hear all these debates about carnivore and keto and paleo and so forth. There’s never been a country where everybody eats meat, where they’re the longest living people. Just doesn’t happen. And I’ve gotten in debates with people and so forth about some of these different diets, but when you look at the preponderance of evidence over many years there’s no question when you eat more of a plant predominant diet, you have less cardiovascular disease, you have less cancer, you have less type two diabetes, dementia, and you really live much longer. One of the other things I do when I get in these debates with people, I just turn the conversation to fiber, because we definitely know that. The average American is only eating about 15 grams of fiber, and the average American gets about most of their calories, 60 to 65% from ultra processed foods. They only get anywhere from five to 10% from plant foods. So we really do not get much fiber. And all of the studies now, I don’t know if you’re familiar with the microbiome, the gut bacteria. Oh yeah. But there is so much research now on the gut microbiome. When I used to go to a lot of anti-aging meetings, and I remember 2005, for example, somebody got up and they were talking about gut bacteria or leaky gut syndrome. People would laugh at ’em. They would basically roll their eyes. And then in 2006, we actually developed the technology to really identify all these different bacteria in the gut. At that point, people thought there were only like 200 bacteria in your gut. Now we know there’s well over a thousand different types of bacteria in your gut, and there’s probably about 37 trillion bacteria in your gut. And remember I told you before, there’s about 37 trillion cells in your body. So you actually have as many gut bacteria as you do the cells in your body. And what we’re finding is that you have good bacteria and you have bad bacteria. So you have the good prevotella bacteria. There’s about 500 subspecies under that. Then you have the bact eroides pathogenic. There’s about 500 pathogenic subspecies under that. So when you’re eating a high fiber diet, The good bacteria go up and the pathogenic bacteria go down. When you eat a lot of animal products and ultra processed food, the pathogenic bacteria go up and the beneficial bacteria go down. There’s a really amazing research project going on. It’s called the American Gut Project. Robert Knight, he’s one of the premier microbiome researcher. He has, he’s analyzed over 10,000 stool samples at this point. Basically, people send in their stool they fill out a questionnaire. I think they charge a hundred dollars to do it, and then they look at the diversity of the microbiome. And what they’ve found is people that eat 30 or more different types of plant foods in a week compared to people that eat 10 or less have a much diverse and healthier microbiome. And what these good bacteria do are fascinating. They, when they feed on the fiber, they actually create these short chain fatty acids. There’s three of them butyrate, propinate, and acetate. And these are the most anti-inflammatory chemicals I have ever seen in my life. They’re unbelievable, but they basically keep your inflammation levels down. And I think everybody knows the chronic inflammation is at the root of just about every disease, including cancer. But they control about 70% of your immune function. And they do it through signaling. There’s cells in your colon, and they basically send signals to your immune cells and they tell them what to do. They tell them where to go. How hard to fight when the inflammation’s getting out of control, like in an autoimmune disease it tells it to tone it down. It basically these little bacteria actually control your immune function. And one thing I learned that totally blew my mind yeah, I dunno if you’ve ever heard of serotonin, it’s like that course. When people take an antidepressant, it’s a serotonin uptake inhibitor. So it helps right? Feel better. 90% of your serotonin come from your gut bacteria, your good beneficial gut bacteria and 50% of your dopamine, which is really totally mind blowing. And then the last thing I just want to talk about the gut microbiome, cuz this is like super fascinating, is that it really does control your appetite in your metabolism. They’ve done the following study hundreds of times, and it always comes out the same way. They’ve taken identical twins. These are humans. One is obese, one is thin, and they’ve done stool transplants into rodents. So if you take the fat identical twin, you do a stool transplant into the skinny rodent, it’ll become fat and vice versa. If you take the skinny twin and you do a stool transplant into the fat rodent, it becomes skinny. So these bacteria control the appetite stimulators GPL one, semiglutide this Weight loss drug that everybody’s taking. That’s basically, that basically increases your GLP one. Your, that’s what your gut microbiome does. It controls your leptin your p y your growlin. So it really controls your metabolism and your appetite. And it’s really crazy. So when you eat more of a plant predominant diet, you’re getting that’s very diverse and that’s really important. I don’t, I always show people the salad that I eat. I have about 25 different vegetables in my salad, and it’s really not that hard to get 30 different plant foods. You can do it through a salad. If you go on the Blue Zones Kitchen, they have some amazing soups with, there might be 10 different vegetables just in that one soup. And you can basically just prep that like on a Sunday, put ’em in little mason jars, put ’em in your refrigerator and just pull ’em out whenever you need, want ’em for lunch or whatever. Same thing with a salad. You can make a huge salad. Put ’em in the little mason jars and then pull ’em out, during the week. So it’s really not all that hard to do. And that’s part of the coaching that I do is really help these people through, developing systems where they can really incorporate this into their diet. And I do tell, and I will warn all your listeners, when you do this, you really have to go a little bit slow because when you go from eating, 15 grams of fiber to what I do, I probably eat 60 to 70 grams of fiber per day. You’re gonna get some bloating indigestion. You’re gonna have gas, so you really have to go slow with it. So I, I usually tell people, listen at the beginning, why don’t you just maybe work on your breakfast, maybe do steel cut oats with a bunch of different berries, put a little soy milk on there with some cinnamon, start with your breakfast, maybe work to lunch, and then. Finally worked at dinner. In the interim, you’re like looking at some of these different cookbooks that I give them. They learn different recipes and then they can incorporate this into their daily life. Yeah.

James Egidio: 26:57

So when you talk about a plant-based diet what specifically. What would it entail?

Dominic Brandy: 27:03

It’s basically you it’s legumes, which I think are really super important. So that’s your’re beans. And we do know that the longest living people in the world, beans are their main staple. We, we know that for a fact. There’s some people, like Dr. Gundry talks about lectin. Lectin isn’t beans, but you cook beans and most of the lectin is destroyed when you’re cooking it, even soaking it overnight. But. The longest living people. Beans are a major staple, so it would be legumes, your fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, herbs and spices. They’re basically your groups. So like this morning, just to give an example, I had steel cut oats with raspberries, strawberries, blackberries, blueberries. I always put a little bit of cinnamon on that. I put a tablespoon of flax seed, tablespoon of chia seed in there. That’s for your omega-3 fatty acids. And then I basically throw that in the microwave typically for about two minutes. And that’s what I have for breakfast this morning. I, so far and I don’t, the other thing that I do is I time restrict my eating. So I basically, Eight around noon today. I didn’t, my last meal last night was at eight o’clock. So I basically don’t eat from 8:00 PM all the way to noon the next day. So I do a 16, eight time restricted eating. And the reason I do that, and it’s in my book, it was actually one of the first studies that was ever published. They looked at people that had breast cancer and they put ’em into two groups. One, they did time restricted eating or fasting for 13 hours or less, 13 hours or more. And what they found is the group that fasted 13 hours or more had a 36% lower relapse rate compared to people that. 13 hours or less. So that’s one of the reasons I do it. And there’s a lot more studies that have come out since that initial study. So that’s basically the way that I, I do my my eating and after I had my breakfast, I took my supplements before I take my supplements. I know this is gonna sound really obsessive compulsive to your listeners, but I do I do a series of nuts. It’s a handful of nuts, but it’s just not, I grab a bunch of walnuts. I grab two walnuts, two pecans, two almonds, two hazel nuts, some pumpkin seeds, some sunflower seeds, some pistachios. And the reason I do that, and I have two lectures on my website about synergy of phytochemicals, we do know there’s over a hundred thousand phytochemicals in plant foods and they really are the powerhouses that fight cancer, I go through all the different ways that they can actually fight cancer. They fragment the cancer. DNA, they disrupt self signaling. For instance, Tumeric alone disrupts over 80 cancer cells. So the cancer cells really can’t communicate with each other. But what I show in my my lectures on that website is that when you combine foods, you actually get this synergistic effect. So two plus two doesn’t equal four, two plus two equals seven. And I go through all the different studies where they show, for instance, one study was against breast cancer cells. They applied a great. The growing breast cancer cells it killed about 25% of the can cancer cells. When they added an onion extract, it killed about 50%, and then they did a half solution. So you would figure if you did 50 50, you’d probably kill maybe 35%. No, you killed 75%. So there’s this synergistic effect, and that’s why I really stress to my patients, you need to eat a diversity of these different plant foods. When you have a salad, don’t just put lettuce, carrots, and tomatoes in there. Put your spring mix, powered greens with a bunch of different types of greens in there. You can get those at Whole Foods. It’ll have Swiss chard. Arugula, spinach, you’ll have all these different greens in there and then, maybe put two radish, two cauliflower, two broccoli, throw some peas, throw some corn in there. Just throw a lot of different foods in there so you get this synergistic effect. And also, as I mentioned about the microbiome, when you eat diversity like that you’re basically giving these different bacteria that feed on different types of foods, the food that they need. So that’s why you get the diversity. There might be one bacteria that really likes carrots for some reason. That bacteria, when you start, when you eat carrots, it’ll start multiplying. And there might be another food that really likes to feed on broccoli so that when you eat broccoli, that one starts multiplying. So that’s basically how you get that diversity and you get that healthy microbiome. By the way, there’s a, there’s an amazing study that was done in Lancet it was in 2019, and it was about fiber. And th this was a meta-analysis. It looked at 185 different randomized studies. There were 58 clinical trials that they did looking at the, and it was 135 million person years. This was a huge study, and they looked at the highest fiber consumers compared to the lower, and what they found was the highest fiber consumers actually had a 30% lower risk of premature death. So it really has a significant effect on your overall health and also your, not only your longevity, but your health span. How long you live in a healthy type state. Yeah.

James Egidio: 32:36

What’s the biggest challenge that, and feedback that you get from clients that you advise on this particular type of diet? I’ll be quite honest with you, by the time I get to them, whatever I tell them, they’re bought in because they already know they’ve listened to me on a podcast or they’ve gone to my website. I’m, for instance, next Saturday, I’m giving a lecture at one of the there’s like a health expo, so they’re gonna hear me, my lecture. If they contact me for a consult, they already know what I’m thinking. So I don’t really need to convince those kind of people. And really, I’ve gotten in debates. I know Dr. Yoho a good friend of yours, but I know he eats a carnivore diet and I’ve got into discussions with him. But once again I always look at the preponderance of evidence. You can cherry pick one article here, one article here to try to make a point, but if you look at the preponderance of evidence over many years, there is no question that when you eat more of a lower saturated fat diet with lower cholesterol, when you’re eating whole food plant-based, I basically eat zero cholesterol and my saturated fat intake’s probably five to 6%. We do know once you get about 8% saturated fat, when you go from 8% to 15%, your incidence of cardiovascular events like heart attacks and strokes go up dramatically. Yeah, do know. Beat more saturated fat. Your LDL, we know LDL, it’s a straight line. When LDL goes up, the cardiovascular events go up. It’s a straight line. In fact, in the last five years, there’ve been 13 Mendelian randomization studies, which they’re genetic studies. These are people that are born with either low cholesterol, LDL or high and. That’s probably the most accurate perspective study you could ever do because these people have had these LDL levels since they were born. But it’s a straight line. It goes higher. The LDL, the higher the cardiovascular event. So the, these people that are eating these carnivore diets are really gonna get into problems. In fact, the Paul Saladino who wrote the carnivore code, he was on Joe Rogan, he was bragging that his LDL was 535 and it really, people below 80 to guarantee that you’re not gonna have a cardiovascular event. I like mine is when I had mine checked at 64, my LDL and my total cholesterol was 124. And that’s just no statins, that’s just a whole food plant-based diet. Yeah. Yeah. Some of these carnivore diets, some of these people are really problems down the road. No, I have to agree with you. I’ll be 60 years old in July and I have been working out for 40 years. Five days a week. I haven’t missed pretty much a day in 40 years, five days a week. And I don’t eat anything out of a can or a package. I make fresh bean soups and have been doing that for awesome, for many years. I don’t eat much meat at all. and I juice vegetables. Of course, I soak them right in vinegar and what not and clean them real good and let them soak most of the day. In fact, after this podcast, I’ll go have my juice. Awesome. Yeah and I’m not on any medications. I’ve never been sick. I’ve never been to a hospital. I don’t have medical insurance because I just don’t elect to do that. My medical insurance is my gym. So I truly believe in everything that you’re saying and I attest to that because I live that and have lived that like that for 40 years.

Dominic Brandy: 36:02

Awesome.

James Egidio: 36:02

Or long since I’m 20. Awesome. Yeah, and I’m living proof of that.

Dominic Brandy: 36:07

That’s awesome. One things I do though is that sometimes people that eat whole food, plant-based diet or they’re vegan and one thing I will say, sometimes the, I hate the word vegan because a lot of times people that are vegan are doing it for animal rights or climate change or whatever,

James Egidio: 36:23

right?

Dominic Brandy: 36:24

They’re some of the unhealthiest people in the world.

James Egidio: 36:27

They are. You

Dominic Brandy: 36:28

can be eating potato. And drinking coke and eating Doritos and muffins and cookies all day, and you’re, you think you’re healthy because you’re not eating animal products, that’s probably the worst diet you could possibly eat. Sure. I like to use that word vegan. I like to say whole food, plant-based, and I, and the word I’m using more because it, the plant-based kind of freaks people out a little bit, is either plant predominant or plant strong. You can even be on like a paleo diet and still be healthier than somebody that’s quote unquote vegan, especially if you’re eating a lot of different vegetables. So if you’re eating your meat and all that the only thing I don’t like about Paleo is that they really tell you not to eat whole grains, which I think are extremely important. I think whole grains are. Like a major food. And I also think they tell you not to eat legumes, which as I told you before, people that eat beans and you eat beans almost every day. Yeah. That’s really the longevity food. But one of the things I do today is sometimes people that eat whole food, plant-based, they think it’s a magic bullet and it’s not. No. All it’s doing is it’s just decreasing your risk, of getting all these different diseases at early stage in your life. And what we wanna do is we really want to increase your health span. If you look at these people in the Blue Zones they live very healthy until the end. In fact, I met a doctor in Nicoya. He was from Nicoya Costa Rica. That’s one of the blue zones. I took my two daughters to Cabo St. Lucas with my wife, and we did a little, it was like a moped tour on the beach. And then we had a little lunch, and I was sitting next to this guy and I said, Hey, where are you from? And he said, Nicoya Costa Rica. My eye, my eyes lit up. So I wanted to pick this guy’s brain. So I said, Hey, is it true that, there’s a lot of people live over a hundred and, Nicoya? And he goes, oh yeah. He goes, it’s, he goes, it’s crazy. He goes, you’ll be, you’ll be on the road and somebody will come on their bike and they’re like 102 years old. Oh, they’re like mentally sharp, right? These people die because everybody has to die. And he said they either die in an accident or they’ll get a pneumonia in three or four days. They die or they die in their sleep. But it’s not this thing where in the United States, You might make it the 90, but from 70 to 90 you’re like, you got knee replacements, you’re pain, you have type two diabetes, you’re on statins. It’s a totally different animal there. So they not only do they have longevity, but they have l health span where they’re healthy for.

James Egidio: 38:55

Oh no, you’re right. And I had a, getting back to the thing about plant-based diet. I had a physician business partner back in 97, and at that time he was 75 years old and he had prostate cancer and he went to a world renowned urologist at that time, a Dr. Strum at UCLA. And so we got into a discussion about, what are you What’s your treatment plan and what the treatment plan was. He says Dr. Strum believes in more alternative type treatments. He put ’em on Lupron, which was a hormone treatment, but he didn’t elect for the prostatectomy. So I says that’s, he just put you on the Lupron. He says, no, he says, he also gave me a recommendation to be put on what’s called green magma. It’s a green barley powder. So I had. A family friend about two months ago. I was talking to, and I even read an article about this that the NIH put out about green magma. I read a scientific medical article about green magma and we’re talking about apoptosis and how green magma has an effect on prostate cancer in lowering the PSA. So I was talking to a family friend, he’s like 85. He is not a very good diet dietary intake. So I recommended, his name is Jack. I said, Jack, try the green magma. This was back in January. His PSA was like, I wanna say it was like 13 or 14. Wow. So he wasn’t due for a follow up. This past month March. So I said try the green magma for a couple months, but, be very consistent when you use the green magma. And he did, he used it every day. Couple teaspoons And he went back for his follow-up last month and the middle of the month, and his PSA was down to seven. Wow. Yeah. And you and I, you were talking about the gut bacteria. I actually make my own keifer. I use keifer crystals Awesome. And I normally do in the morning a protein shake with a vegetable based protein. And I use that with a banana and some almond milk and a couple scoops of the protein powder, which is a, like I said, a vegetable based protein powder. But I also will put sometimes a tablespoon of my, homemade, Keifer which is a like replaces the gut bacteria in the friendly gut bacteria in the stomach, right?

Dominic Brandy: 41:30

regarding prostate cancer, I, I don’t know if you’re familiar with, it was really the landmark study by Dean Ornish in 2005 was in the Journal of Urology, but what they study, they had 93 men that had early prostate cancer and they put half on a whole food plant-based diet. Other half was standard American diet, and they followed for a year. And after a year, the whole food plant-based diet, the PSA came down 4%. The Standard America diet went up 6%. And then what they did, what was really interesting it was with Elizabeth Blackburn who was a Nobel Prize winner through heat map technology. They wanted to see how the diets were affecting gene expression. And we call this epigenetics. So what you eat can make your genes be expressed in a positive way or a negative way. And what they found, there were 48 good genes that were upregulated, they were made to act even better than they already were. And there were 453 bad genes that were downregulated. So they weren’t as bad as they were before they had the whole food plant-based diet. And then after that they followed for another four years. So it was five years after the time that they started the study. And I dunno if you’re familiar with telomeres. Sure Telomeres are the little caps on the ends of your chromosomes. And as you get right, shorter and shorter, what they found was the people that were reading the whole food plant-based diet, their telomeres actually got a little longer. And the people that were reading the Standard American Diet, they got significantly shorter. So that was some amazing work that was done back, 15 plus years ago. So that’s when you mentioned prostate cancer, I figured I’d mention that study because that was a landmark study.

James Egidio: 43:10

Yeah. It’s really interesting. They it’s true. You are what you eat. And I hear a lot of sentiment too from especially in the, around the gyms and stuff where you talk to people and they’re like, oh, and even my stepson, he’s 17 years old and he is gotten into working out and exercising. He keeps telling his mother, you gotta make me, some kind of a protein source every night. Chicken or meat or something. But, living testament that you don’t need all that meat. There’s a lot of, like you said earlier inflammatory reaction from that meat. It changes the pH of the blood,

Dominic Brandy: 43:45

oh, sure. It acidifies and one of the yeah. Patients. I really try to alkanize them. Yeah. That morning they, I, there’s these special urine pH strips you get on Amazon where in the morning you pee on. And I like the pH, the urine pH, to be anywhere from 6.5 to 7.5. And I have a chart actually in my book, beat Back Cancer. Naturally, it’s an alkaline based chart and it has the most alkaline foods, the most acidic foods, and then kind right but cancer survives it, thrives in a high acidic Low oxygen, high inflammatory micro. So I do everything I can to get them to have an alkaline. High oxygen and low inflammatory microenvironment and the way you actually increase the oxygen. There’s two studies that I reference in my book exercise actually significantly, right? Increases oxygen in the cancer microenvironment. So that’s another reason why exercise is really super important in the battle of cancer. It’s just, sure, I would say diet exercise. And then when you’re battling cancer, I do think you need some extra supplementation along with your conventional therapy. Like I just had a consult today with a girl. This girl’s only 32 years old. She was diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer, and I guess she saw somebody go through chemo and it like scared her. So she was doing everything she could do to not do any chemo. So she went to the gersen, she did the Gersen therapy for 10 months, and it didn’t make it get better, she said it just kept it where it was. And I don’t know if you know anything about that, you gotta do seven coffee enemas every day and you do like vegetable It’s like a totally crazy regimen that I just, and coffee enemas to me are totally useless. I, I think people that do that actually are gonna mess with their microbiome too shoot up through, up the wrong end. But then she went somewhere else and they were doing these other conventional therapies, methylene blue with ozone. And there was, I forget what else they did. There were like three different regimens that they did. And and it totally went outta control. It just, the cancer went outta control. So I did a consult with her today. I said, listen, you’re 32 years old. You need to get on some conventional therapy. So I, I always really recommend my patients listen. Do everything because you have trillions of cancer cells dividing in your body. This is a formidable enemy that’s, it’s trying to put you down. So you need do conventional, you need to do your diet, you need to do some supplementation. You need to exercise every day. You need to make sleep, keep your stress down. Try to get the toxins outta your body. Try to eat organic if you can. Make sure you drink filtered water. So I go through all these different things with him. But you really can’t. I personally don’t think people, and even, you talked about Chris Beat Cancer. You did an interview with him. Oh yeah. Conventional therapy. He did have the cancer cut out of his colon. You have a choice after that. You can either do chemo or not. And if you don’t do it, I think what he did, I think it definitely helped him. Help it not relapsing and coming back. I definitely think everything he did was positive. And I think that situation, I think that’s something that you could do. He was basically in a surgical remission and he wanted to stay there but he did get the surgery. So I do think you really can’t totally disregard the conventional therapy because, there, there are some amazing drugs out there. And I’ll be quite honest with you, I wouldn’t be here right now if it wasn’t for the two medications that I take right now. So I, years ago people would die. I, in fact, I had a nurse that worked for me that had multiple myeloma. I remember it was like 20 some years ago, and she was asking me all kind of questions about multiple myeloma, and I remembered studying at medical school, but I, I didn’t remember every single thing about it. So I was doing some research for and so forth. And this woman was about 62 years old. She looked like she was 40. She was really fit. She was dressed to kill. She was dead in a year and a half. And wow. Years ago, multiple myelomas. But when you have multiple myeloma, you were basically dead one or two years. In fact, my oncologist, he didn’t even treat multiple myeloma 20 plus years ago because he told me it was so depressing that he just didn’t wanna deal with it. He just said it was just, it was like a death sentence and really do yeah.

James Egidio: 48:21

It’s interesting too because these medications, they, they work and, you were talking about eating the nuts, right? For, and it’s also a good source of fat. It’s a good fatty source for dietary intake. Absolutely. Because I was reading an article, a medical article not long ago about the statins, and they were talking about how the statins may be linked to dementia and how it wears on the myelin sheath of the nerve fiber and the conduction of the nerve impulse. And it was a very interesting article because when you think about it, they even use a statins, sometimes, not a lot, but they’ll use them for lipomas to get rid of a lipoma when they don’t want to surgically go in and remove a small lipoma. They’ll just put somebody on a statin to thin out the lipids in the blood. But like you say, Diet is everything. It’s just, it’s everything. It keeps you away from a lot of medications and a lot of health issues. And it’s about, like you said prevention.

Dominic Brandy: 49:20

Oh yeah. Even with type two diabetes, what most people don’t realize, it’s really high saturated fat that causes type two diabetes. People don’t realize that. They think it’s like eating a lot of candy and so forth. And they do studies on rodents for type two diabetes. The way they get ’em into type two diabetes, they feed ’em a very high saturated fat for six weeks and they’re in a full-blown type two diabetes. So what happens is the saturated fat actually accumulates into the liver and the muscle tissue. It mucks up the glute for insulin receptors. So insulin really doesnt Work it can’t get the sugar into the cell because the receptor has been downregulated. So you basically get high insulin levels and high blood sugar levels. And one other thing people need to understand is that insulin is the most powerful growth factor in your body. Yeah. So when you have high insulin levels and you have cancer, that is a terrible combination because insulin will really make that cancer go out of control. That’s why it’s important to really make sure that if you have type two diabetes, you get that under control. But I, if you ever get a chance, read a book called Mastering Diabetes Cyrus and Robbie they wrote it. These guys are PhDs, they’re brilliant, and they both have type one diabetes. Cyrus I think was diagnosed when he was in college. He was 22, and Robbie, I think, was a kid. He was eight or nine years old. But They’re amazing because they were able to actually use themselves as test subjects. So when they started, they were giving themselves about 42 units of insulin, and they were eating about 125 grams of carbs. Then they basically went on a plant-based diet. So when they opt or carbohydrate. So when you eat a plant-based diet, you’re eating about 70 to even 80% complex carbs. It is a very high, complex carb diet. People hear carbohydrate, they freak out. We’re not talking about refined carbs, we’re talking about complex carbs, right? So when they jacked up their carbohydrate intake to 400 grams, their insulin requirement went from 42 down to about 32. And these two guys eat 700 grams of carbs per day and their insulin. Requirement went down to 24. So the more they lowered their saturated fat, increased their complex carbs, the lower their insulin requirement was. So they were becoming more insulin sensitive cuz they were getting all that fat out of the muscle and liver tissue. It’s really super fascinating. These guys eat 20 different fruits per day. Eat seven bananas a day. It’s crazy.

James Egidio: 52:02

Yeah. Yeah. And then I think, flushing your body with a lot, like you said, a lot of filtered water.

Dominic Brandy: 52:08

Oh yeah. For sure.

James Egidio: 52:09

Helps a lot. Water’s amazing. I’m up to for many years, three liters a day.

Dominic Brandy: 52:14

Wow.

James Egidio: 52:15

Yeah. Yeah.

Dominic Brandy: 52:16

You must have to urinate right now.

James Egidio: 52:18

No, I’m okay. I’ve got it right here. Wow. But yeah, there’s just so many things it’s just common sense, I think, we’ve had patients come into our clinic in, in the past and, they’d be 30, 40 pounds overweight, and first question I’d ask ’em is do you drink soda? And they’re, oh yeah, I drink, two or three big gulps a day. And I says, tell you what, I’ll challenge it to something here. You just. Cut out the soda and you’ll probably lose in the first month, at least a minimum of 10 pounds. And sure enough, they would quit drinking the soda. Yeah. They’d come into the clinic a month later and they were down 20 pounds, 15 pounds, 10 pounds.

Dominic Brandy: 53:01

Oh yeah. That’s, first things you can do, because it’s not, your body’s not even expending any energy to metabolize it. When for instance, when you eat a piece of Celery I’ve read articles where you’re actually negative calories because it has so much fiber in it. I think a piece of stock of celery is like 17 calories or whatever, but when your body, it, your body has to expend like 20 calories just to metabolize this thing. So you’re actually negative three calories. But when you’re drinking soda, that’s just going right into your bloodstream. It’s not, your body’s not exerting any energy to really break that down now. That’s absolutely the worst thing you can do. And if you have cancer, that is the absolute number one worst thing anyone could ever do because as you probably know, and everybody knows, cancer needs a lot of sugar, Way more sugar than our normal cells. One, just give an example. One sugar molecule will create only two ATP energy molecules in a cancer cell because it basically thrives by anaerobic metabolism, right? Where a cell will take one glucose molecule and it’ll make 36 ATP energy molecules. So our body can take one sugar molecule and make a ton of energy where a cancer cell, it needs like a ton of sugar to really just keep the engines going, so when you’re drinking that soda, that’s the worst thing you could do,

James Egidio: 54:29

right? Is that the reason why people have a lot a craving for sugar when they have cancer.

Dominic Brandy: 54:36

I would think that probably would be, because, there’s signals being sent. What the other thing that’s really interesting, you’re talking about cravings. One of the things they’ve found is that a lot of your cravings act actually come from your gut bacteria. Remember I talked about how some gut bacteria, Some of them like carrots they actually send signals to your brain. That create some of these cravings. So it could actually even be coming from some of the, if you have cancer and you’re eating a crappy diet, your pathogenic bacteria could be overgrowing or beneficial and they could actually be sending some of these negative signals to your brain. You would actually crave sugar. But I will tell you one thing about cancer, if it doesn’t get sugar, it will get it from either cholesterol or glutamine. So it figures out a way to get nutrition. Yeah. It is a very crafty cell and it’s amazing how it really can configure out ways to get around all the different, chemo drugs and the different methods that you’re using to try to keep it under control. That’s why. I always tell people, you gotta hit it from every angle. You gotta hit it from the exercise, gotta hit it from supplements, conventional. You need to hit it from every angle to keep it under control. Yeah.

James Egidio: 55:44

What’s the success rate with your clients who come to you who have cancer or in the, in are being treated for cancer?

Dominic Brandy: 55:51

I’ll tell you what, when I get people that are in remission, I don’t think I’ve ever had one come out of remission yet. Wow. Now, counseling for people, when they contacted me, they were stage four metastatic cancer. It’s all over the place. those patients most likely aren’t gonna make it all. All I’m trying to do is help them get an extra year or two of their life. But by the time you get to a stage four, things are just so out of control. And there’s so many DNA mutations that it’s really hard to get those patients under control. I have had some patients with stage four that did die, and what did upset me that’s probably the thing I don’t like about doing cancer lifestyle coaching, is that you do develop a relationship with these people, especially when I’m doing this 24/7. Like right now, I have a, these people that have the metastatic cancer, I’m texting these people almost every other day. I’m, yeah, urge them. Sometimes when I wake up in the morning, I see a nice sunrise I’ll send ’em a picture. I’ll just say, Hey, I have a, yeah. Hey, do you have any questions? If I see an article that I think would help them, for instance there’s something called hyperthermia treatments, which they actually do ’em in Cleveland Clinic where they actually put you, they sedate you, and they actually jack up the temperature to 116 degrees Fahrenheit. And it is effective for some patients. So I’m always looking for things to help them when they’re getting to the end stage, cuz you gotta start pulling the stops when you get to that point because the cancer’s just an all different type of organs. It’s really it’s developed all these different mutations. It’s developed all these adaptations to develop chemo resistance, radiation resistance. So it really becomes very difficult at that point. But I can honestly say, thinking back, anybody that’s come to me that’s been in remission, I’ve been able to keep ’em in remission just through. Doing a lot of the different lifestyle changes that I recommend for them. Yeah, that’s awesome. That’s amazing. Again, the website is NaturalInsightsIntoCancer.com. Yes. Dot com. Yeah. NaturalInsightsIntoCancer.com.

James Egidio: 58:03

You have any advice for anybody

Dominic Brandy: 58:06

somebody wants to get an overview of my philosophy, if they buy my book beat Back Cancer Naturally, they can get it on Amazon. It’s hardback, paperback audio, and Kindle. They can also get it on my website. If they get it there. I give ’em a signed copy when they go on my website. And then also I do a lot of testing too. If they go on my website through Quest Labs, I do 70 plus health biomarkers that I test. So I check. Vitamin levels, mineral levels, amino acids, heavy metals, C-reactive protein, inflammatory level. I check the IGF one level, which I think is really important. Insulin growth factor, I like that to be between 120 and 160 nanograms per mil. Vitamin D levels are really important. Hemoglobin a1c, I check the omega six to omega-3 fatty acid ratio. So basically with that, they go on there they sign up for it. I charge $150 just for me to analyze it, to write up a report, give ’em a call. And they have a diagnosis. And I find that the lab studies are totally covered by insurance. So I put a diagnosis code on there. I basically send them a sheet. They print it off, they take it to Quest. Quest sends me the results. I then send the results to the patient with a letter saying what they need to improve and so forth. And I will tell you the one thing that has amazed me about doing these biomarkers. Almost every single patient I have checked has deficiencies in minerals. I’ve never had anybody that had a normal mineral level. Never. Chromium is low on a lot of these people. Iodine is low. cobalt is low on a lot of them Vitamin. And I think it’s because of the way the soil is toiled today.

James Egidio: 59:51

I was just gonna say that magnesium too. I interviewed a Dr. James Greenblatt. He wrote a book called Finally Focused, and he devoted his entire career to pediatric ADHD and getting kids through the ADHD with magnesium which is over the counter and it’s very inexpensive to buy. And coincidentally, prior to interviewing Dr. Greenblatt on the podcast, I started to use magnesium a because I went through, melatonin, I wanted really restful sleep. I started using the magnesium. It was amazing. At first I was just so relaxed in the day, I could like getting on the treadmill in the gym or the stairstep. I was just like my legs were like lead and I couldn’t figure it out. But then I, it dawned on me, I was like, okay, it’s the magnesium, it’s got my muscles really relaxed. It’s like a natural muscle relaxer. But anyway, Dr. Greenblatt totally turns these kids around, and as he, mentioned, just what you were mentioning is that the western diet lacks the magnesium and of course the western diet which is not much fortified with enough minerals is where the shortcoming is on that. And like I said, in that dietary intake of magnesium.

Dominic Brandy: 1:01:10

Yeah. Yeah. And what I do, what I personally do is I take a colloidal mineral supplement every day. I put it in my drinking water throughout the day. I add lemon juice, organic lemon juice, lime juice a little bit of missile toe extract. But but it’s really important that that you get your magnesium and you get all your minerals. So when you do a colloidal mineral supplement, I get it through Amazon, it’s now brand. It basically has all, it has chromium, iodine, magnesium has just about everything. So I do that every day because I, I’ll tell you when I first started doing it is when I started to see all these results coming back on these people, And it just realized that most people have severe mineral deficiencies. In fact, there was an article that I posted on my Instagram site, cancer Veggie Doc. It was in the. Journal of the international Society of Sports Nutrition. This was an amazing article. They looked at four different diets. They looked at the Atkins Diet, the Best Life Diet, that’s like the Oprah Winfrey Diet

James Egidio: 1:02:10

the Oprah Winfrey Diet. Okay? Yeah. She’s got a Diet

Dominic Brandy: 1:02:14

Life Dash and the South Beach side. So they looked at these four diets and they looked at 27 essential nutrients. What they found was all four of them had almost undetectable or very low levels of biotin, vitamin B seven, vitamin D, vitamin E, chromium, iodine, And with the keto diet, the Atkins diet, to be able to hit all of 27 essential nutrients that they were checking the individual would have to eat 37,500 calories. It was like mind blowing to me. So that study made me realize too, that people really have some pretty bad mineral deficiencies and which you have to understand. Yeah, if you’re exercising a lot, what most people don’t realize when you exercise, you lose a lot of chromium, you lose a lot of iodine, you lose selenium, you of course you’re losing sodium. So people don’t realize that. So if you’re exercising, you’re one of these like elite athletes or whatever, and you’re, exercising and hot weather or whatever, and you’re sweating, you really gotta make sure you’re keeping track of your mineral levels because a lot of that stuff is actually released through the sweat. So it’s really important to do that. Two other tests that I do, I actually do stool testing, microbiome testing through doctor’s data. So I check the microbiome diversity and also dysbiosis. And then the last thing I do, it’s through Great Plains Laboratories, is I check 173 different toxins that can accumulate in your blood. It’s a urine test. So all these things can be done through like virtual basically. In fact, the woman I did a consult on today, she ordered a microbiome test. So I’ll get that through doctor’s data. They’ll send her the kit, then they’ll send me the results. And the same with the with the Great Plains toxins. Yeah and I will tell you, most people with that have high glyphosate levels. So in glyphosate, as you probably know, Roundup is really very toxic and right, and just about everything, it’s in cereals and people. What people don’t realize, people that eat meat, They’re getting a lot of glyphosate because most of the grains that they feed these animals have, they’re not non gmo. They’re basically loaded with glyphosate. So when you eat meat that isn’t grass fed, isn’t pasture raised you, you are getting high glyphosate levels and that really has been shown to be a major carcinogen.

James Egidio: 1:04:46

Yeah. Yeah. The food in the United States, the vegetables and even the fruit is so much different. My wife’s from Italy and when I traveled there a couple times and ate the vegetables and, of course I tried the meat. I’m not like a total vegetarian once in a while, eat a little meat. It’s a totally different taste. In fact, she was mentioning that they don’t even allow G M O in Europe except Spain. So all the vegetables and fruit are all like first, from first generation seeds, right? Pretty much. It’s amazing. The taste is so much different and the, it’s just it appears different. It tastes different. It’s just amazing.

Dominic Brandy: 1:05:26

Oh yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Yeah.

James Egidio: 1:05:29

Yeah. And I’ll actually put the links up to your book and your website at medical truth podcast dot com. That’s medical truth podcast.com. And I really appreciate you spending the time with me today on this episode of The Medical Truth Podcast. Dr. Brandy

Dominic Brandy: 1:05:47

I enjoy talking about this stuff because

James Egidio: 1:05:49

Absolutely

Dominic Brandy: 1:05:49

get educated because, There’s a lot of confusion out there, and I think social media has created a lot of it because we say if I do a post on Instagram and I say broccoli’s healthy for you, like how many people are gonna nobody. But if I say, your doctor has been wrong all these years, like eating a ton of saturated fat is actually healthy for you. That’s gonna go viral. Unfortunately, the way the world is today, and if you say something that’s provocative, it’s gonna get a lot of hits, then people get confused. And that’s just face it. If you can encourage people to do something that they really that’s bad for them, and you’re giving them like some quote unquote scientific information that really is maybe fake, they’re gonna love that. They’re gonna eat that up. Oh man, you mean I can eat all the, all the. Kentucky Fried Chicken. Yeah. Oh, this is awesome. So that’s just the way the world is today. But I enjoy doing this because I just really like educating people.

James Egidio: 1:06:54

Yeah. They get bombarded with the pharmaceutical commercials and the fast food restaurants. So this is where we’re at today, and then we sit here and we go, I wonder why I have, this, and I wonder why I have that And it’s obvious.

Dominic Brandy: 1:07:06

Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah.

James Egidio: 1:07:08

Thank you so much again for joining me for this episode of The Medical Truth Podcast.

Dominic Brandy: 1:07:13

Hey, it was awesome. Enjoyed it.

James Egidio: 1:07:14

Thanks. Thanks, doc. Okay.