Post Vaccine Injury- Interview with William Makis, M.D.

James Egidio: 0:45

Hi, I’m James Egidio, your host of the medical truth podcast, the podcast that tells the truth. The whole truth and nothing but the truth about the American healthcare system. My guest is a Canadian nuclear medicine physician. With training in oncology, radiation therapy and immunology. He is a university of Toronto scholar and an author of over 100 peer reviewed medical publications. He has discovered an increase in cancers that may be tied to the COVID vaccine and post vaccination, sudden deaths. It is an honor to have on the medical truth podcast Dr. William Makis Dr. Makis, thank you so much for joining me for this episode of The Medical Truth Podcast. I have to say, I’ve been diligently following you on Substack and you’ve been exposing a lot of the post vaccine since 2020 issues at hand. So I wanted to just unpack some questions that I have for you and that is what have you noticed after the rollout of the vaccine in 2021?

William Makis, M.D.: 1:53

Thank you very much for having me. Yeah. We noticed initially young people, who had started collapsing from Myocarditis, it looked like these were usually athletes, young athletes collapsing on the field. And I think this was something that we saw early on. We also saw the issue with blood clots, right? And this was more of an issue with Astra Zeneca and Johnson vaccines. We had a big rollout of AstraZeneca in Canada at the beginning of the vaccine rollout. And both of those vaccines were taken off the market eventually for blood clot issues. But it turns out that, blood clots have been an issue with all the major vaccines, including Pfizer and Moderna. Because, the spike protein is quite toxic, and that’s the main component in all the vaccines, regardless of how you deliver the spike protein. Whether through a DNA vector or whether through mRNA the spike protein itself is the toxic agent that’s causing the myocarditis, it’s causing the blood clots. So I think this was pretty evident early on, but the health authorities downplayed all of these events. I was just writing a Substack article the other day about vaccine injuries in high school kids. And, there was one story that had said, oh, this girl had a one in a million, reaction to the Pfizer vaccine. And, it turns out that these were not one in a million reactions. Now thousands of people are coming down with these kinds of reactions.

James Egidio: 3:16

I wanna back up a little bit about that cuz I had listened to a earlier episode you had done on the vaccine and you had mentioned something about your colleagues in Canada, cuz you are located in Canada, of course in Edmonton. Who have died from the vaccine or what was suspected of the vaccine.

William Makis, M.D.: 3:36

That’s right. So I noticed this phenomenon of young doctors dying shortly after taking their Covid 19 vaccine, especially the booster shots. I noticed this in November of 2021. We had a very outspoken cardiologist in New Brunswick. Dr. So 52 years old, big time cardiologist. Very outspoken against what he called anti-vaxxers or people who were discouraging other people from getting vaccinated. He would say things online like he wanted to punch them in the face. He wouldn’t cry at their funeral. And he took a booster shot and he died in his sleep two weeks later.

James Egidio: 4:10

Oh wow.

William Makis, M.D.: 4:10

And this actually made the news. Now, what didn’t make the news was the fact that he had taken his booster shot two weeks prior. But his death did make the news. And people found very quickly that he was actually one of the first doctors in Canada who got the first booster shot. He actually cut the line and he got it sooner than anybody else. And he was dead within two weeks. And then we had another family doctor in Toronto who had owned a bunch of clinics in the greater Toronto area. Dr. Niel Singh Gala, 48 years old, he took a booster shot and he died on his friend’s couch on Christmas Eve three days later, right? So it became clear that there was something really wrong here. And the issue this was happening right around the time that they rolled out Covid vaccine mandates for all doctors, nurses, and healthcare workers in Canada, throughout Canada, so that you had to submit your vaccine status, you had to have at least two doses, and you have to submit that to your employer within a month, or you’d be fired, right? So these vaccine mandates came down in October of 2021. And by December, I was noticing doctors were collapsing and dying in their sleep. And again, people shouldn’t be dying in their sleep in their forties and fifties. That kind of phenomenon just doesn’t happen, right? And here you had two doctors that had just died shortly after taking their booster shot. So I started speaking out about that online, started researching it. And the more I research, the more of these sudden deaths I found it’s gotten to the point now where I found over 150 sudden deaths of fully vaccinated Canadian doctors since the rollout of the Covid 19 vaccines. Now that’s just sudden and unexpected deaths of practicing doctors. And then people would throw these things at me like doctors die all the time and it must be stress. And how do you know that? Like how does it compare to previous years? It might be the same. So we put together a team of volunteers and we actually went and set out to get the data, and we found over 2,300 Canadian doctor deaths over the last four years. We compared it to the pre pandemic year, and we found that in 2022, for example, physicians in Canada had an excess mortality of 53%. Wow. Compared to 2019, 53% more doctors died in 2022. And this has been increasing every single year. And the reason why Canadian doctors are a particularly interesting group to look at is that we know they’re all fully vaccinated. Because they had to be to keep their job. If they weren’t vaccinated, they were fired. This was another example of, what’s probably happening in the broader population. You’ve got Edward Dowd in the United States, the former BlackRock, hedge fund manager who’s looking at insurance data in the United States. And he has found in the working age population, this is age 18 to, 50 60, right? He has found an excess mortality of 40, 50%, right? So it’s in line with those numbers. And so it’s an example of what we’re seeing in the broader population.

James Egidio: 7:05

Yeah. It’s not coincidence, it’s just not a normal occurrence. So How does Canada handle the postmortem autopsy situation?

William Makis, M.D.: 7:14

So that’s very interesting. In Alberta, for example the mainstream media reported. That in 2021, the number one cause of death was cause unknown. And that’s the first time that’s ever happened. We had about 3,400 deaths of unknown causes in 2021, and in 2019, that was only about 500. So that’s a sixfold increase, right? In unknown causes of death. Now, what’s happening is that autopsies are not being conducted. The health authorities are discouraging doctors from conducting autopsies. And in the, in the rare event that autopsies are done, they’re not doing the proper autopsies, they’re not doing the proper staining to look for damage done by the spike protein, whether from the vaccine or even from the virus. They’re simply not staining for the spike protein, right? So if someone has died and they happen to test positive for covid 19, then you know, they will attribute that. As a covid 19 death without any kind of testing during the autopsy. But if someone dies from the Covid 19 vaccine, since they’re not staining for the spike protein, they’ll say it’s, it’s anything but the vaccine and it’ll end up being an unknown cause of death or indeterminate. We have a father in Ontario, Dan Hartman, whose 17 year old boy Sean, died one month after taking a Pfizer vaccine because he wanted to play hockey here in Canada. We basically forbid kids from playing hockey above age 12, unless they were fully vaccinated, they weren’t allowed to access hockey arenas or sports facilities. And, he died a month after taking the Pfizer vaccine and his autopsy came back inconclusive. So th these are the, basically the results that were stuck with the authorities. And the thing is, they could do the staining for the spike protein and the other viral proteins. So you can actually differentiate whether it was the vaccine or whether it was the virus, right? Because if you don’t have other viral proteins, then you’ve got just the spike protein, then that’s a vaccine death, right? And Canada is not doing those kinds of autopsies at all.

James Egidio: 9:13

So they’re pretty much putting a lot of obstacles in the way of any in postmortem investigation or autopsies is what they’re doing. It sounds like. That’s right.

William Makis, M.D.: 9:22

And we also have this chilling effect that has been brought on by the medical boards here. We call them colleges of physicians and surgeons that have literally threatened doctors and threatened their licenses, that if they say anything bad about the COVID 19 vaccines, talk about injuries and risks and so on, they will have their medical license suspended. Yeah. And this has been put forward under the gu guise of we don’t wanna be spreading vaccine hesitancy. But this is medical malpractice. Literally, the colleges, the medical boards are engaging in medical malpractice. They have violated informed consent, they have violated bodily autonomy. They don’t allow people to get vaccine exemption letters, for example. So we have a very corrupt healthcare system here in Canada where the medical boards are essentially committing crimes against the population and no one is holding them accountable.

James Egidio: 10:13

Yeah. Yeah. I just wanna unpack some things to the listeners and viewers of the Medical Truth Podcast about the vaccine because it’s not really mentioned too much about the mechanism of action of this mRNA vaccine, and the difference between the mRNA vaccine, let’s say, vaccines in the past that were administered. What’s the difference and what’s the mechanism of action? In other words, I guess in layman terms, for the people that are listening, so once it gets injected into the deloid what’s going on with this vaccine?

William Makis, M.D.: 10:52

The classical vaccines, you would have, an activated. A virus or viral components. And they wouldn’t have this sort of carrier mechanism like the lipid nanoparticle, right? It’s they’d be injected in the shoulder, in the muscle, and they would stay locally. And do you know what they were supposed to do? These new vaccines, these lipid nanoparticle vaccines that have the mRNA in them. It’s a completely different technology. Now, as an oncologist, I have oncology training and I’ve treated, hundreds of cancer patients with cutting edge cancer treatments. I’ve diagnosed tens of thousands of cancer patients, and I was familiar with lipid nanoparticle technology and mRNA technology as well. And these were technologies that were always studied for end stage cancer patients. Specifically the lipid nanoparticles. You can think of it, it’s a delivery mechanism, but it was meant to be for chemotherapy. So you would load chemotherapy into these lipid nanoparticles. You would inject it. And we knew that it would go all over the body because that was what it was designed to do. It was designed to deliver chemotherapy all over the body access all parts of the body for treatment. And we also knew that, there were issues with these lipid nanoparticles, they were inflammatory and so on. But when you’re dealing with an end-stage cancer patient, the benefits outweigh the risks. Or at least they’re supposed to. So it was never meant to be rolled out in the general population. So when I first heard that, they were using na, lipid nanoparticles and mRNA, I thought that’s bizarre. Why would they do that? Why would they use something that was being, experimented on with cancer patients? Why would they roll it out in general population? That made absolutely no sense to me. But then I thought, and I think other doctors like Dr. Robert Malone or Dr. Peter McCullough, I think they’ve had a similar kind of feeling. They thought that, Pfizer and Moderna had solved. The issue of how to make, the vaccine stay in the shoulder and this issue of it spreading all over the body. And it turns out they didn’t solve that issue at all. When we got, when Dr. Byron Bridle obtained the biodistribution studies that were done by Pfizer looking at how, what happened to the vaccine once you injected it and the documents show that it ends up in the bloodstream and it spreads all over the body and it dumps the mRNA into organs, right? It dumps it into the heart, kidneys, liver. So some people will end up with kidney failure. Some people end up with liver failure, right? Everyone has different reactions depending on how much mRNA gets dumped into a particular tissue. Now we know it ends up in the brain. We know it ends up in the bone marrow. Now we’re seeing these, leukemias that are killing, these cancers of the blood that are killing patients, within days. So the mechanism of injury there’s a couple, right? And it’s all due to the spike protein getting into the blood, right? If it just stayed in the shoulder, we wouldn’t have these vaccine injuries. It’s, the problem is that it does end up in the blood. It can be, identified in the blood for weeks after injection into the shoulder. It’s just circulating, dumping mRNA all over your body. Then that mRNA gets translated into the spike protein. So instead of getting a local spike protein, and let’s say you would get like a local reaction, right? Little bit of redness a rash because the spike protein isn’t highly inflammatory. Instead, you’re getting this spike protein being expressed in organs where it doesn’t belong. It’s a toxic protein that shouldn’t be there. So spike protein in the heart causes myocarditis. It shouldn’t be there, right? Spike protein in the kidneys, damages kidneys, puts some people into a kidney failure, in the liver. Some people have ended up with a need for liver transplant after having their Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. Because it ends up in the liver, causes severe inflammation. So that’s, the problem, and this is how it’s different from the classical vaccines, is it gets in the blood, it gets distributed all over the body, and that’s where the problems start.

James Egidio: 14:43

So are you saying that the nanoparticle is more like a capsule, like a time-release capsule protects the messenger RNA and transports it is what you’re saying?

William Makis, M.D.: 14:52

Yeah, exactly. It, it protects the mRNA, but the other part of it is that it’s very easily taken up by cells, right? Because the, the cells can fuse with the lipid nanoparticles very easily and they can take up the contents of what’s inside the lipid nanoparticle, right? That, that’s what it was designed to do. It was designed to deliver, something inside to cells all over the body. And that’s exactly what it does.

James Egidio: 15:16

And yeah, it also sounds like that it’s also expressing these oncogenes. So in other words, it’s looking for weak areas in the body that are. Let’s say these dormant cancer genes that are in the body and it’s looking for that, and then it expresses it wherever that weakness may be. Let’s say it’s a young male who’s maybe potentially prone for testicular cancer. So it’s gonna express the genes to create testicular cancer or liver cancer or whatever. Is that true?

William Makis, M.D.: 15:49

So that situation gets very complicated, right? When it comes to these cancers. Now some people have called them turbo cancers that are arising, with people who’ve been vaccinated, covid vaccinated. Usually young people, these cancers are usually extremely aggressive. As an oncologist, I’ve looked at, what are the possible mechanisms by which these covid vaccines are causing cancer? And it actually gets extremely complicated. There’s numerous ways in which the covid vaccines affect the immune system, so they can actually severely damage the immune system. They interact with all kinds of immune cells, signaling, all of that gets altered and thrown out of whack. And part of it was because that’s the way the mRNA was designed. It was designed to interact with toll-like receptors on T-cells and that would inactivate the innate immune system so the mRNA wouldn’t get destroyed right away. And it would bypass that initial, immune shield that people have. There’s all kinds of mechanisms that are happening. They’re not well understood. So I wouldn’t hitch my wagon to any particular one theory because there are a number of ways that the mRNA vaccines are interfering with the functioning of the immune system. Now we’re finding that there’s a double stranded DNA, contamination. That comes with the mRNA in the way that it’s produced. There’s these SV 40 promoters that have been found, and that’s from a virus that can cause cancer as well. So there’s all kinds of possibilities, right? We also have an immune shift, right? In the types of immunoglobulins that you produce. The more boosters you take, you get a shift in, in producing completely different immunoglobulins that are more, with people seen with tolerating allergies and allergens. So you actually end up tolerant to the spike protein and then the, you shift the immunoglobulin production away from immunoglobulins that deal with cancer cells, right? So that’s called the IgG four shift, right? So that’s another potential mechanism where we might be seeing cancers happening as a result. So what I would just say in to summarize that, Is that the mRNA vaccines specifically seem to be damaging the immune systems of a lot of people and people who are unfortunate, where that damage is very severe to your immune system that could lead, basically lead to cancers being formed.

James Egidio: 18:06

Yeah. Because it’s also, of course, obviously vascular system issues at hand, reproductive. So it’s just a whole long list of adverse reactions that are occurring through these, this vaccine. And it’s all due to what the mRNA.

William Makis, M.D.: 18:21

Yeah. So it’s due to the mRNA, being expressed into the spike protein, right? And the spike protein then being found in tissues where it shouldn’t be. It causes a local, a severe local inflammation, and that’s where the problems start, right? Dr. Bhakti a microbiologist, from, Germany and Thailand, he’s now actually being persecuted. He’s been calling out for the dangers of covid vaccines where the spike protein gets expressed in blood vessels, right? And once it gets expressed in the blood vessels, it creates the clotting issues, right? It also damages the blood vessels, right? So people end up with these aneurysms, which are basically areas of damaged blood vessels that can burst. People are now dropping dead of brain bleeds, right? We had Grant Wald, the 38 year old journalist at the World Cup soccer journalist, he dropped dead during a game at the World Cup. And, I think he was in his I believe he was in his forties.

James Egidio: 19:16

Yeah, he sure was.

William Makis, M.D.: 19:17

And he dropped dead from a burst aneurysm. People are dropping dead from aneurysms, which are basically damaged to blood vessels. And Dr. Bti has been warning about this since the rollout of the vaccines, that if you get spike protein in the blood vessels, damages the blood vessels, you get blood clots, you get damaged vessels. And yeah, there’s damage all over the place. If the spike protein ends up in the heart, of course you get that inflammation in the heart. Now, that’s a serious problem because you shouldn’t, first of all, you shouldn’t be having inflammation in the heart, right? If you get inflammation in the heart. Now imagine there’s this conduction system in the heart that keeps your heart beating. So now you have inflammation, you have all these cells and all this liquid in the heart because of the spike protein that shouldn’t be there. Now you get arrhythmias, right? And so these arrhythmias can happen if you’re exercising, it can happen, in the early morning hours as your body’s waking up, your heart starts beating a bit faster. And that is predisposing people to these sudden cardiac deaths that we’re seeing in young people collapsing all over the place. Just out of nowhere. Yeah. And again it’s inflammation from the spike protein, right?

James Egidio: 20:23

Entering the blood-brain barrier with glioblastomas. You see a lot of that now.

William Makis, M.D.: 20:28

So the interesting thing is that it seems that the lipid nanoparticles can. Get past the blood-brain barrier very easily. And once the spike protein gets in the brain, it, it starts causing all kinds of problems. And an easy way to think about it is you think about all the neurological injuries that people have come down with after being vaccinated. People have come down with seizures. They come, they’ve come down with vision problems, hearing problems, tinnitus, vertigo, people have come down with all kinds of movement disorders, right? Where they their limbs, shake uncontrollably. The neurological injuries can be very severe.

James Egidio: 21:06

Yeah. What the other question I have is we’re seeing a lot of athletes, young, athletic adults who are basically just basically dropping dead on the field or wherever they’re participating. Why is that?

William Makis, M.D.: 21:24

I was talking a little bit earlier about the myocarditis with the spike protein getting in the heart. Now here’s the interesting thing about that, and we’ve been lied to by the authorities about this which is why I think it’s taking such a long time, especially for the medical authorities to acknowledge this problem. So the myocarditis has been identified, the Pfizer and mRNA cause it it’s been admitted, by the CDC and Canadian health authorities as well. But they claim it’s rare and it’s mild. So they’ll claim that it’s one in 5,000, one in 10,000 and it’s mild. It resolves after a week or two and you’re fine. Now both of those are lies. There’s been a couple of studies now, one in Thailand, one in Switzerland, that have found that the myocarditis after vaccination can be as frequent as one in 30. So that’s a huge difference. One in 10,000 versus one in 30 is a massive difference. Huge. And, you can ask Dr. Dr. Peter McCullough, who’s a cardiologist, has spent his whole life, doing cardiology, right? Has over a thousand publications in his field. And he confirms the same, that yes this myocarditis, this inflammation of the heart. It’s much more common than we realized, than the health authorities will admit. So it’s one per 30 per jab right now. So that, imagine you’ve had two jabs, or three jabs, or four jabs, now a jump to, let’s say one in 10. Now you may ask why aren’t people dropping dead all over the place? And it’s, again it’s not every case of myocarditis will result in a sudden cardiac arrest or sudden cardiac death. It just gives you that additional risk. So it, it elevates your risk. So we may have thousands of people who are walking around with subclinical myocarditis after vaccination, and subclinical means that they don’t have symptoms, right? So that it seems like it’s mild. They don’t get symptoms, they don’t get chest pain, they don’t get shortness of breath. They’re working out, they’re doing their physical activities as usual, but it seems that you need a triggering event. Once you have that myocarditis, you need a trigger to have that sudden cardiac arrest and sudden cardiac death where you collapse on the field and die. And that trigger event seems to be a surge of stress hormones, catecholamines. And there’s several situations where you get a surge of stress hormones. Number one is when you’re exercising, right? So that’s why these athletes usually during a game is when they’ll collapse, right? Or shortly after a game. We often see collapses, like at the end of the game or so on. You also get a surge of stress hormones in the early morning hours when you’re waking up because your body’s getting ready to wake up. And so that can actually be a trigger for a sudden cardiac arrest and sudden cardiac death. And also when people are sick, let’s say when people have the flu they’re not feeling well, that can also, you have a surge of stress hormones. It’s a stress on your body that can trigger a sudden cardiac arrest. And so once you have this trigger, you’ve got this sort of inflamed heart where the conduction system is already, affected by this inflammation, right? You get this trigger of stress hormones, and that seems to put people into these arrhythmias, like ventricular tachycardia or ventricular fibrillation. And then you basically, you need to do CPR, you need to have a defibrillator ready. And sometimes you can save these people, but most of the time you can’t.

James Egidio: 24:45

Let me ask you would it be from a clinical standpoint prudent to do, let’s say cardiac enzymes on a blood draw on a young patient who’s been post vaccinated? Would that be maybe a suggested protocol just to see where they’re at with cardiac enzymes and maybe their heart’s under a little bit of stress as it’s produced and let’s say these spikes, these spike protein in the bloodstream?

William Makis, M.D.: 25:10

I think so. We’re going to need some kind of diagnostics for these people, cuz I think we’re losing too many people to these sudden deaths. Yeah, absolutely. And I think now the, for so far the medical authorities and doctors in general are ignoring this phenomenon. As the deaths mount, I don’t think they’ll be able to ignore it forever. And I think, there will be companies that will come out with a clever method of diagnosing either circulating spike protein in the blood, which, there’s been a study that came out that showed that, young people who are suffering from myocarditis, they were actually found to have circulating spike protein. So there’s a, there’s an association that maybe if you are one of these people who continues to produce spike protein indefinitely you’re at much higher risk of something like like a myocarditis or sudden death. So either companies will have to develop a test, a simple test to test for circulating spike protein, or let’s say a very sensitive test for cardiac enzymes or some kind of a imaging of the heart, something like a cardiac MRI that can very simply and quickly diagnose myocarditis in a young person who doesn’t have symptoms who might otherwise be at risk of a sudden cardiac arrhythmia and death. Yeah. So I think that’s gonna come it’s gonna have to come.

James Egidio: 26:29

Yeah, absolutely. So with that question being said for, people who, I guess you could say it’s a little too late, that they’ve already had the vaccination done. And I wanted to just back up a little bit on a, another question I had on that, cuz I think you may have answered, you may not. But are there any particular brand of vaccines, whether it’s the Pfizer, Moderna, j and j, that is causing more injury and death as opposed to others? And if so, which ones are they?

William Makis, M.D.: 26:56

People have asked me this question, especially when the vaccine mandates came. They said look which vaccine is the least damaging of, back then it was the four major ones, right? AstraZeneca, j Pfizer, and Moderna we’re not really dealing with only Pfizer and Moderna. And I couldn’t I couldn’t not, I said, look, they’re all toxic in slightly different ways, right? They all have risks that can basically lead to death just in, in slightly different ways, in different frequencies. Right now, you’ve got the Pfizer and Moderna both of them are problematic. I think Moderna gives you a higher dose, right? So you get a higher dose of mRNA which means you potentially get higher spike protein production. Right now, the problem is that each batch is different. So all the batches of Pfizer are different. All the batches of Moderna are different. So sometimes you’re getting a very high concentration of spike protein. Sometimes you’re getting, no, sorry. Sometimes you’re getting a high concentration of mRNA. Sometimes you’re getting no mRNA, right? You might be getting degraded mRNA products. Sometimes you might be getting mRNA. That doesn’t even code for spike protein. It co codes from mutated spike proteins. There’s researchers that have actually discovered that some people are not even producing the classic spike protein that you see in the virus. They’re producing mutated proteins that have had several mutations that we actually don’t even know what those proteins look like and what those proteins do in the body. So it’s a bit of a it’s a very, it’s unlike other drugs we’ve had in the past, cuz at least in the past, with something like Vioxx or Thalidomide, you’d actually have a drug that was produced the same way. Everyone got the same drug, right? And so at least you could say, okay you’ve got this uniform Drug across the population, you can track the side effects and so on. But with these vaccines, with Pfizer and Moderna, everyone seems to be getting something different

James Egidio: 28:47

Yeah. In their back. I think not only that is that when you mentioned Viox for instance, or any other medication prior to with the exception of, let’s say, medications that were used, for off-label over the years, is that you had a medication that was not really FDA approved, so it didn’t really go through the testing that it was supposed to because it was under emergency use authorization. And then they freed the li the pharmaceutical companies from the liability of the drug. So it pretty much gave them free reign to do what they wanted to do. And it became one big classical research study on the entire world. And then my question to you is hot lots, right? Which do what? Let’s talk about that hot lots. What are hot lots?

William Makis, M.D.: 29:36

This seems to be an issue where something like 5% of the batches of covid 19 vaccines are causing the vast majority of the severe side effects and deaths. I can’t tell you the exact number, whether it’s, 70% or 80% of the injuries and deaths are caused by 5% of the batches of the vaccine batches, right? And this seems to be an issue with the way this mRNA is produced. Apparently it’s produced in large quantities and depending on where they, obtain that mRNA from these big vats or however they produce it, you might be getting a lot of mRNA, you might be getting very little. And so a, a hot lot or a hot batch is a batch that is associated with very high rates of disability and death as tracked through the VAERS system. We still have the VAERS system, obviously only a small fraction of injuries and deaths get reported there, but there’s enough. We’ve got, what is it, over 30,000 deaths, hundreds of thousands of injuries. You can actually check the batches, by the little serial code, serial number and you can track the injuries and deaths. And there are some batches that seem to be effectively lethal. And again, being completely ignored by the health authorities who think that, this is not a serious issue.

James Egidio: 31:02

Yeah. It just doesn’t seem like coincidence that because this was an rolled out under emergency use authorization, you free the pharmaceutical companies from any liability. It just doesn’t make any sense. So the, they pretty much have free rein to basically utilize this drug this bio weapon as a, like I say like a research study more or less is what it really turned out to be. It became one big project and the entire world was the Guinea pig of the test subject for it. And then, like I said, you’ve, and I’ve always said you had guys like Bill Gates pushing it and involved with it, who was always involved with computers and, ringing his hands and making sure everybody had to get vaccinated. And it just didn’t make any sense from the very beginning. And then 98% chance of survival if you got covid, you’re gonna survive and you’re an immunologist. You, you have a background in immunology. So you take, we take more of a chance when we jump in our car and go to the grocery store of getting killed in an auto accident than we do of catching covid and dying. So it didn’t make any sense from the very beginning that you had to go out and run and get this vaccination. Now for the people that got the vaccination, is there an antidote for this, to reverse this?

William Makis, M.D.: 32:21

Yeah, you’re absolutely right. When I looked at this in the beginning when the pandemic, I started watching the Johns Hopkins tracker, the tracker of the cases back in January when it was still in China. And I saw it, it started to spread, it spread to Italy, it spread to, Canada, United States. And I, basically, one of the first things I did was I looked at, okay, we have a pandemic. Who’s dying from this and how many people are dying from this, right? And that data was available very early on, and it was clear that. The survival for, young, healthy adults was over 99.9%. It was literally not killing the average person certainly not affecting kids. And I find to this day, a lot of the people who did take the Covid vaccines and took many of them, let’s say they’ve taken four or five shots, their. Their assessment of the risk of Covid 19 is completely warped and completely disconnected from reality. They think that, something like 20, 30% of people die from covid 19. They have no idea that it was less than 0.1% people died. And the high risk groups for hospitalization and death were really just people above the age of 70 in long-term care homes of, or people with multiple comorbidities. So it absolutely made no sense to roll out the vaccines in the general population. That was very, to me, that was a huge red flag. I told my wife when this was being rolled out, I said, we are not participating in this, no, in this experiment. We’re not participating in this experiment. I as an oncologist with immunology background, I’ve treated people with experimental with experimental drugs. You don’t roll out experimental drugs in the entire population. You just don’t do that. That’s just, that’s not done. So I knew something was very wrong from the beginning. So now we’ve got the situation, we have what, 85% of the population has taken at least two shots in, US, Canada. What do we do? What do we do with that? Is there an antidote? And, this question’s being asked a lot. There isn’t an antidote that I know of and there isn’t anything that I know of that could guarantee to clear the spike protein from your system. Now that being said, you obviously, there’s obviously things you can take. To, to try to clear the spike protein from your system or to break it down. And there are, these things you can take as supplements, right? Nutraceuticals, enzymes. So for example, Nattokinase is an enzyme that can break down the spike protein completely in some cases. At least, when they’re looking at it research wise in the lab, we don’t know in humans, if you can break it all down completely, but Nattokinase is made from fermented soybeans discovered in Japan. It’s a supplement you can get for 30 bucks or something like that. It’s not right that difficult to get you can take quercetin, dandelion root, olive leaf, n-acetylcysteine. These are things that don’t necessarily break down the spike protein, but they block the spike protein and they prevent it from causing damage. So there’s, there’s a number of these. Supplements that you can take to put the odds in your favor. Yeah. Yeah. Nattokinase also breaks down blood clots, right? So if you’re worried about blood clotting from the vaccines, that’s an additional bonus there. It’s, I think people who have been vaccinated have to be proactive, and have to essentially, until we have the tests that can say, yes, you have circulating spike protein, or No, you don’t, which will be very helpful, right? Until we get those tests, it’s better to error on the side of caution and maybe take some of these agents that block or break down the spike protein even if you don’t have symptoms. Because as we’re seeing now and what I’m seeing really recently is that there seems to be a spike in sudden deaths in people who weren’t vaccinated recently. These people are dying and they were vaccinated a year ago, a year and a half ago. They didn’t take their booster shots and they’re still coming down with these sudden deaths. Yeah. There may be these long-term effects with these mRNA vaccines that we don’t know about, that weren’t studied because Pfizer and Moderna rushed these products. They tested it for a couple of months on healthy people. We have no long-term testing of these products. People might start, dying in large numbers two years, three years, four years after taking their vaccines because we simply don’t know. We don’t know what it’s doing in we know what it’s doing internally. We know that it’s causing damage internally. But again it’s, it was never studied for safety. These kinds of products have to be studied for many years. Yeah. To have to gain safety.

James Egidio: 36:59

And you mentioned sudden death. It doesn’t necessarily, from what it sounds like, has to be sudden death because you as an oncologist, radiation oncologist? You’re probably seeing a lot of cancers, right? Like you said earlier turbo cancers. Correct.

William Makis, M.D.: 37:14

There’s been a spike in cancers, and these cancers behave differently. They’re, there, there always were cancers in young people, they were un, they were uncommon. And usually there were some kind of a, underlying genetic issue. Some kind of a genetic mutation that predisposed you, let’s say, mutation in the BRACA gene that predisposed you to breast cancer in your thirties, like Angelina Jolie, right? She had one of these sort of genetic cancers that, she then has a double mastectomy. To make sure that the cancer doesn’t come back. So that’s what we used to see. But now we’re seeing, these aggressive cancers in young people that behave very differently. They grow very rapidly, much more rapidly than they should, and they spread rapidly and they seem to be resistant to your typical radiation therapy chemotherapy protocols. Ah, so they’re catching oncologists off guard. And I get emails, every day from parents, from relatives who tell me about these cases of their vaccinated relative young person, thirties, forties, fifties, who comes down with this bizarre cancer. And the oncologists are just completely baffled because it’s not behaving as it should. And they’re, the oncologists are scrambling to try to control these cancers the best way they can. And in a lot of these tragic cases, the cancer will kill the vaccinated patient in less than a year.

James Egidio: 38:35

Wow. Yeah, I know I keep saying that. I know three people that died personally that I know died from the vaccination, and one was a 30 year old who died of a sudden death, and I don’t know anybody that died from Covid. The other question I have is the spike protein in shedding. Yeah. And does this occur, when it does occur? What are the most common illnesses that people get from shedding?

William Makis, M.D.: 39:05

This is one of the most common questions I get. So I believe shedding does occur. It’s been proven to occur through these particles that people breathe out called exosomes, these tiny little particles. They have spike protein in them, and it’s these things that just bud off, you know, cells in, in our lungs. And people breathe that out so you can get exposed to it externally just in the air. Spike protein does show up in bodily fluids sweat, saliva, through sexual intercourse, right? Bodily fluid exposure. The exposure with the bodily fluids seems to be a little bit more and people get a little bit stronger. Reactions to that. So there have been reports of women having bleeding after intercourse with a vaccinated individual, right? Okay. There’s even been reports of a miscarriage. Now these are very rare and it’s hard to know if, if it can cause something like a miscarriage. And people are worried. So first I, with, when it comes to the shedding, I would say it doesn’t affect the vast majority of the population, right? Vast majority of people simply are unaffected by it, probably because your immune system kind of deals with it very easily. You can think of it as an external environmental toxin. You’re exposed to something in the environment, that’s toxic. You might have a bit of a, very minor reaction. You might not even notice it. And your immune system deals with it. There’s a small percentage of people who are extremely sensitive to shedding, and they will get severe rashes, they will get sick. They, they might be nauseous, they might vomit, they might be extremely fatigued, get knocked out for a day or two. Those people should be taking supplements that break down the spike protein or block the spike protein, as I mentioned earlier, nattokinase quercetin, NAC, Bromelain, dandelion root, white pine needle, olive leaf, black seed, Ella Sativa. They should be taking those kinds of things to protect themselves from these reactions to shedding, right? Because again, it’s, you’re being exposed to the spike protein externally, right? Where people get worried is that, they’re worried, can you get vaccinated if you’re unvaccinated, can you get vaccinated by just through shedding or being exposed to other people? And my feeling on that is no I don’t see there being a mechanism for that happening, right? But, there’s some people who believe that it might be possible in very rare cases, especially if someone has been recently vaccinated, that they still have mRNA circulating in their system. Maybe there’s a bit of exposure, maybe some of that mRNA gets excreted somehow in bodily fluids if you get exposed to it. These are very rare scenarios, it, so it, there may be a very rare possibility, but I think for the vast majority of the population, it’s not an issue.

James Egidio: 41:59

Yeah. What about a pregnant mother? And then of course then she has the child and then she nurses the child. So is it transmitted through, let’s say breastfeeding and as well as through the placenta?

William Makis, M.D.: 42:13

Yeah the spike protein has been found in breast milk. And so I, I think that’s been confirmed and that’s a problem. There’s been reports of infants getting sick and again, we don’t know the mechanisms and we don’t know to what extent, the damage to the infant, what kind of damage they might get from, let’s say breastfeeding and the spike protein is there. Dr. Ryan Cole has talked, a pathologist in the United States has talked about placentas that he has seen in vaccinated women that were full of infarcts and calcifications and all kinds of horror stories. We know that, women are suffering stillbirths, they’re suffering miscarriages, and I’m getting now reports of women dying either during delivery or shortly after delivery of complications that they shouldn’t be dying from, or all kinds of strange bleeding clotting issues that lead to death, that shouldn’t be happening. I think this is an area that, it’s being suppressed by the, healthcare establishment, but it’s gonna come out. There’s gonna be more stories and data coming out. That there’s very serious problems, I think, for women who’ve been vaccinated. I think there’s some very serious issues that are Yeah. Are being swept under the rug. Yeah.

James Egidio: 43:29

I interviewed a Dr. Annamaria Mihalcea she’s another diligent substack content creator. And she was mentioning now that the mRNA vaccine is being used of course on livestock, on cattle pork and even chickens and it’s being transmitted through the food supply. Is that an issue as well where you’re at?

William Makis, M.D.: 43:57

I think that’s gonna be an issue for everybody. This sort of, poisoning of the food supply essentially is what it is, right? Whether they’re, mRNA, vaccinating, pork. Or beef or, poultry I think this is gonna be a serious issue. Now the question is, what happens when you consume this meat? And I’ll tell you where it becomes a very interesting issue that I’d only had this discussion very recently with another physician. We cook the meat and everything. if there is mRNA, it should end up being destroyed.

James Egidio: 44:27

Denatured.

William Makis, M.D.: 44:28

Yeah. You would think that it wouldn’t be an issue. What about people who like their steak? Really rare. Yeah. What about people who eat, undercooked foods or raw meat, or meat. Yeah. That’s not properly cooked, so that may be an issue. So I would certainly want to know where my food is coming from. If my meat has been mRNA vaccinated and personally I would avoid it any which way possible. Yeah. Because we just don’t know. We just don’t know what the dangers are of mRNA vaccinating, these animals and, I’m concerned because they’ve been mRNA vaccinating zoo animals. And now some of these zoo animals are dying suddenly and having all kinds of diseases and illnesses. So it’s just something that I think is a problem, is a serious issue. And I think people will have to be vigilant, push back any which way you can, and be vigilant to know where your food is coming from and simply don’t buy it. If it’s labeled, basically boycott it.

James Egidio: 45:29

Yeah, she had mentioned too though, that cuz I, that was one of my questions to her about the denature and of the mRNA in the food source. But she said, no. She says that there’s hydrogel in these vaccinations too, and when they vaccinate this livestock it’s heat resistant to these, to the Mr. mRNA. I’m not sure you know what the answer is to that,

William Makis, M.D.: 45:55

but it again it’s the same problem, right? If you’re mRNA vaccinating these animals that mRNA, it’ll be circulating for a period of time, right? And depending on, when they slaughter these animals and so on, it’s, there’s mRNA there. And to me that itself is a huge problem. I don’t want to be consuming food that has mRNA or proteins that were transcribed from the mRNA that God knows what those proteins are. I simply don’t wanna be consuming that. No. And so I, I think I think it’s I would agree with her in terms of that we have to be extremely cautious with what we consume, and I would very seriously push back on this mRNA vaccination of our food supply the meat. I, I don’t want to consume or have anything to do with those kinds of products. We have to make sure that those products are labeled, that we know what those products are. And I think people will ultimately have to maybe, shift away from, buying their meat at a big grocery store and, seek out local, farmers and ranchers and get their meat locally where they know what they’re getting.

James Egidio: 47:07

Yeah. Yeah. It just, this whole thing seems to have been a well thought out plan for many years, because from what I understand, the mRNA was it’s been researched for many years now. Gosh, going back, what? 30 years, right?

William Makis, M.D.: 47:23

They’ve been working on this for a very long time. Yeah. You can find, yeah. Them discussing, you can find the scientists discussing how to deal with the various mRNA problems, back in the early two thousands. This goes way back.

James Egidio: 47:36

Yeah. Today it goes back, I believe, as far as what, 1988, 89? From what I understand it,

William Makis, M.D.: 47:42

it very well may. Yeah. Yeah. I’ve seen, I’ve seen papers from the early two thousands, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes back way further than that.

James Egidio: 47:50

Yeah. And you’re in Canada and there’s so much Stuff being brought up about, and even early on about vaccination, passports and all this other stuff. And I was doing a little research and it went down the rabbit hole of research on quantum tattoos and quantum computing and, we’re talking about central bank digital currency and all these other things. It’s, this is a multi-layered issue. It’s not just the vaccines and whatnot. And I did some research on a. Dr. McChue out of Rice University in Texas who was doing re research on quantum tattoos and Lucifer Luciferian Dye. There was a Dr. Carrie Majas early on who did some research on that and brought it to the public’s attention, and they said she was crazy. And they talked about this in this paper I was reading on his research, I think it was in 2014 or 15, where they were talking about using this quantum tattoo to apply it to vaccine passports so that as far back as 14 and 15, they’re talking about vaccine passports in the use of quantum tattoos. So I just think we’re in this brave new world with Big Brother and all this other stuff that. Me personally, I don’t see an end to this whole vaccination rollout in this experiment that they started. I just don’t see it.

William Makis, M.D.: 49:16

No. They have too much money invested in it. Yeah, and I can tell you because I researched and I looked into, what kind of other mRNA products are in the pipeline? What are they getting ready to roll out? And it’s pretty shocking. Not only do they have dozens and dozens of mRNA products that they’re already testing and putting through the different, trials, but they have mRNA products that they’re ready to roll out this year. They’re ready to roll out influenza mRNA vaccines. They’re ready to roll out RSV mRNA Vaccines, CMV vaccines. And that’s this year, like that’s before the end of the year, there will be two or three other mRNA vaccines on the market. So like they are doubling, tripling down on this technology. They’re building mRNA factories on every continent. I think we’re gonna have two mRNA factories here in Canada. They started building one in Quebec, one in British Columbia. Wow. Yeah. No, they’re investing, billions of dollars into this technology, which is wild when you think about the fact that people have basically stopped taking their covid booster shots. So how are they going to convince people to start taking all these other mRNA products that they want us to take? And we know that, for example, for RSV, they want to inject all pregnant women, right? With cmv, they want to inject all women of reproductive age, right? So they actually have plans for certain groups of, certain populations that they want to introduce these products into. So Canada is very bad in this regard, especially because as you mentioned in terms of, the vaccine passports and the, the digital. Digitization of medical records and so on. It feels like Canada is almost like like a pilot program or a pilot country for some of these very draconian technologies to be rolled out guided by these, international organizations like the World Economic Forum. WHO, Canada seems to be at the forefront Yeah. Of of pushing some of these things. And there’s been a recent controversy where someone had discovered on the Justin Trudeau’s Liberal Party website, they’ve put back their, a platform that they wanna run on, which is mandatory vaccination all over again. You cannot get on a plane in Canada unless you’re fully vaccinated. Work for the government unless you’re fully, they wanna run on this again. Sure. Yeah. So they wanna bring all this back. They’re being quiet for now. Because of the pushback by the truckers in Canada and just by people in general, they’re being quiet for now, but I have a feeling that they’re gonna come back with all of this.

James Egidio: 51:49

Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. The, in fact, it’s funny you mentioned that because there was an article just broke, I believe it was today in the Epoch Times about that, about Canada wanting to bring back the mandatory vaccination program and lockdowns and mask mandates. Yep. And they want to just bring this back again. And my two questions to you is when are you gonna get outta Canada yourself personally?

William Makis, M.D.: 52:15

You know what I’ll tell you, I’ll tell you a funny story. I had immigrated from a communist country from communist Czechoslovakia. Okay. And my parents didn’t tell me that we were doing that. And we go on this vacation, in, in communism, you could only go to another communist country for a vacation. And we end up at a United Nations office applying for a refugee status and we end up in a refugee camp. And I’m like, what the heck is going on? Now, they didn’t tell me because they were worried that if I said it in school, my parents would go to jail. What we were planning, so we escaped communism. We, I lived in a refugee camp for a year and here I am, some 35 years later, having discussions with my wife, how we’re going to escape Canada, when they shut down the borders again. And, talking about that, maybe we’ll have to hire some human traffickers. To smuggle us out of Canada, into United States or Mexico. Yeah it’s, it’s wild that I actually have to seriously have a plan, ready to escape Canada. If we have to end up escaping. It’s absolutely crazy.

James Egidio: 53:16

I have a good suggestion for you, Joe Biden’s going to lift Title 42 tonight. Just fly down to Tijuana. You can go to San Diego, go across to Tijuana, have a beer, and then just come across Exactly. And go to Vegas you’ll be a Golden Knights fan.

William Makis, M.D.: 53:33

Exactly. I might have a very small window to escape. Escape Canada, right?

James Egidio: 53:37

Yeah. My wife’s from Italy, so she’s, it’s, things have, they’re really pushed back in Italy. I know the Italians are pretty adamant about this. They are. They won’t put up with it anymore. You mentioned anything about a, another virus and mandatory vaccines and they’re just, they’re out in the streets, pushing back about it. My question to you, my last question is, what advice do you have for anyone who’s received the mRNA vaccine? Bio weapon, I call it.

William Makis, M.D.: 54:03

Yeah. I tell people, keep a journal, keep a medical journal of any unusual symptoms, right? Because, most of us, we’ll have some pains and aches and so on, and we just blow it off and say, ah, that’s fine. I’ll sleep it off. But in a vaccinated person, small signs can be a sign of a serious thing. So I tell people, keep a medical journal. And I would either consider taking for a period of time, some supplements that block or break down the spike protein, or at least have them handy, have them in your cabinet, have them handy. Because there’s still this issue of, are vaccinated people, are they producing spike protein for a long time? Are they producing it indefinitely? We just don’t know. And people who haven’t had any reaction to the vaccine, let’s say they haven’t had a vaccine in the last year, but they’ve had no reactions either, the odds are in their favor that they might not have severe reactions or adverse events down the road, but there’s no guarantee. Yeah. There’s always that risk that, they may come down with a stroke or a heart attack, a year, two, two years down the line, maybe even cancer, right? Yeah. So I think we’re dealing with a very serious toxic agent, bio weapon, you name it it’s an extremely toxic thing. That has been unleashed on the population. Yeah. And unfortunately, they did manage to vaccinate a big chunk of the population. I think something like 80, 85% of people have taken at least two shots. Fortunately, people didn’t continue with the boosters. I think less people took booster shots in the United States than in Canada. In Canada they managed to get at least half of the people with the third booster shot, and then it then it just dropped off after that. But I think people should be very proactive with their health. Be careful with exercise. Exercise is extremely important, but again, be careful if you know you’ve been vaccinated. Be careful with exercise. Take something that might, treat an underlying myocarditis or inflammation of the heart. It’s, people have to be vigilant about their health. Fasting is very good, whether fasting or intermittent fasting because it destroys some of these cells that have the spike protein. It’s the body zone mechanism of clearing out damaged cells. People should consider fasting. People should consider, cleaning up their diet, cutting out, sugar and flour if possible. Things like that. I think people have to be very proactive, especially people who’ve been vaccinated. Be very careful about your health. Be proactive. You don’t wanna be one of these die suddenly statistics that I’m posting about every day. It’s, these are horror stories, right? Yeah. Young people, they go to sleep and they never wake up again, and the entire family is destroyed. People have. People have just, have no idea why this is happening, how it could happen, no symptoms, no warning signs. Yeah. So I think people have to be very careful with their health.

James Egidio: 56:57

Yeah. And you mentioned earlier about blood clots. What about the old take the baby aspirin once a day thing? Is that still hold up pretty well with that as well?

William Makis, M.D.: 57:07

That’s an interesting I think that’s that’s a potential solution for some people. Yeah. I think a baby aspirin is could be good. And again, I would talk to someone, talk to a healthcare professional, you trust, it’s hard to trust doctors these days.

James Egidio: 57:19

Jeez. I was gonna say, maybe you’re veterinarian. Yeah,

William Makis, M.D.: 57:23

exactly. Maybe your naturopath or, alternate health practitioner. But sure. I think that could be a good thing for some people. Yeah. That, that’s an option. I think that’s, again, an option to have in your back pocket. Yeah. To, to deal with the blood clots. Like I said, Nattokinase also deals with blood clots. Seems to be pretty safe. Might be safer than aspirin. These are things, I think knowledge is very important. People don’t have this knowledge. Yeah. So once you have the knowledge, once you have the tools, then you can have these things in your cabinet, in your medicine cabinet and, you have them handy to, to give yourself better odds of, especially, with these sudden deaths. It’s very frustrating to me as a physician to see people dying in their sleep or collapsing when they’re exercising. When these are young, healthy people, they shouldn’t be dying.

James Egidio: 58:09

Yeah. I think if we take ourselves out of what’s happened in the last year and a half two years now since 2021 is that a lot of the influence, I think with people rushing to to get the vaccine was this whole fear factor that. The media and the politics of it ginned up over, let’s say the course of, I don’t know, they rolled it out. What was it like January of 21 or something like that? Yeah. So I think what happened is that a lot of people, if they had to look back now and say, okay, what I get this vaccine. I’ve talked to a lot of people about that. They’d say, I would never get it again. Never. Yeah. And I think it’s gonna be a hard sell for anybody to go run and get other vaccines in the future. I hate to break the bad news to Bill Gates, but I think if people had to start over again and look back it’s, it was the media that put the fear into people. About having to get this vaccination is what it was. And then they made it a political issue as well, yeah. And they, it caused a lot of division with vaccinated versus unvaccinated and mask versus unmasked. So there was this collective thinking along with this cognitive dissonance all mixed into one soup, if you wanna call it. And it just created these, everybody running out and getting vaccinations, yeah. It was highly coordinated. It was really a psychological operation, right? It was a cyop. Completely. Yeah. Yeah, because I remember I had a medical house call practice in 2000 and I started in 97, 98 and did that for 12 years. And I remember in 2003 when we were out doing medical house calls and we had SARS, Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome in the fall of 2003 going into four. So it was right around the flu season and it was bad and it was a covid virus and a lot of people are not aware of that. But that was a Covid virus. And it was a very bad flu season. And I tell people we lost a, there was a lot of, we didn’t lose a lot of patients personally, but there was a lot of patients that year that were in the senior population and in the pediatric population that died. And all they simply had mentioned the local health department was make sure that they get the flu vaccine. And that was it. And that was it. So there wasn’t this hype of shutting down businesses and, wiping off, countertops and all this other stuff. And then there’s just too many inconsistencies anyway, where they didn’t mandate mask until June where I was. If this was as bad as they said it was, masks should have been mandated from day one, number one. And then a ni, like I said earlier, 98% chance of survival if you did get the covid virus. So it was just, there was too many inconsistencies from the very beginning that just warranted that you shouldn’t really be taking this experimental vaccine.

William Makis, M.D.: 1:01:17

Yeah. Honestly, they got one shot at this and they threw everything at it,

James Egidio: 1:01:21

They did,

William Makis, M.D.: 1:01:22

right? Yeah. They tried to get people every which way possible to take the vaccine. They went through your, they went through employment, right? They tried to force it through your employment. They went through guilt, they went through your family members. You can’t see grandma or you can’t see your grandchildren unless you got the vaccine. They played on people’s hedonism, you could say that people wanted to travel and they wanted to travel. Now, and they played on people’s in a sort of they want that in immediate satisfaction of just wanting their life back immediately. They went through churches, right? Yeah. They set up clinic and churches, they went through the schools. They went every which way possible. Yeah. This was, this is a once in a lifetime Psyop. They will never get it. They will never get this chance again. This is a one, this was a one shot. And they will never, they will never regain that trust that people had in institutions again like I said, but, so that’s what surprises me is how, why they continue to invest so much money into the mRNA platform, given that, people have basically wised up and people are done with this with all these tricks. So they’re going to need something. They’re going to need something extreme. To, to roll out these shots and have, a sizable population of people take them again. And I worry about what that may be. That’s why I’m looking at things like influenza, H5N1 that they keep chattering about, that has a case fatality rate of 50% they claim.

James Egidio: 1:02:47

And then monkeypox of several months ago,

William Makis, M.D.: 1:02:49

monkeypox, ne NEPA virus, Marburg virus, these hemorrhagic type viruses with very high fatality rate. They’re going to need something very extreme, to bring people back and convince people to, to take these shots again. And I’m, I’m worried about what they have planned for us next. Cuz they’re clearly not done with us.

James Egidio: 1:03:09

No. And Gates even said that. He said this, the next one’s gonna be worse. He says that right from his own mouth. He talks about population control. This is another thing. If anybody else talked like this, they would be locked up and put it in a padded room. Yeah. Or they’d be prosecuted for a conspiracy to murder. Yeah. This is murder. This is murder. And these people just keep getting away with this kind of stuff, and I just don’t see how it’s gonna happen,

William Makis, M.D.: 1:03:35

yeah. No, we have to be, I think we have to be mindful and vigilant. That, these people are completely unhinged. They’ve invested tremendous amounts of money especially into the mRNA technology. I just it blows my mind just how heavily they’ve invested. Talking about, having potentially hundreds of mRNA vaccines, in the next decade. Who the heck is gonna take these vaccines? It absolutely blows my mind.

James Egidio: 1:04:02

Yeah. And I was interviewing Dr. Warner Mendenhall the other day as an attorney here in the States, and we were talking about that. And he actually is defending Brooke Jackson, From Pfizer. Okay. And this was a Department of Defense project. This wasn’t done, through the FDA, NIH and the CDC. So this was a project, and this happened from the very beginning. In fact, Mickey Willis in pandemic his documentary, he laid this out perfect. There was a, it was a psyop, it was all put out as a project prior to October of 2019. So this is not all done by accident. This is well orchestrated and like you said it’s not over.

William Makis, M.D.: 1:04:48

Yeah, absolutely. I agree. I agree with you.

James Egidio: 1:04:50

Yeah, that’s not over. But I really appreciate you coming on to the Medical Truth podcast and I want to keep everybody updated with your progress of coming forward and bringing up these injuries and deaths that are due to these vaccines. Thank you so much for your work. I appreciate it.

William Makis, M.D.: 1:05:07

Thank you for having me. If people want to follow my sort of work and longer articles on the vaccine injuries and potentially new pandemics that might hit, people can find me on Substack MakisMD.Substack.com. People can also follow me on Twitter at MakisMD. I post, on a regular basis, I’m actually being attacked very heavily right now by the pharmaceutical industry and by agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I’m being swarmed with death threats all kinds of other threats, people reporting me, people trying to get me suspended, silenced. There’s, it’s very interesting people the pharmaceutical industry, really doesn’t want these stories told these stories of covid vaccine injuries and deaths. They want all of us silenced, all of us physicians, Dr. Peter McCullough. I’ve actually just joined the wellness company that Dr. Peter McCullough is on the board of. So I’ll be on the board of wellness the Wellness Company Canada, working with Dr. Peter McCullough, working with Dr. Alexander. We are, we’re getting together. Those of us who stood up and pushed back against this huge pharmaceutical complex, we are getting together. There is strength in numbers. So people can find me on Substack or Twitter.

James Egidio: 1:06:19

Yeah I’ll also be, I have a Substack of about 17,000 followers as well, and I will post this episode of course, on Substack as well, and on the website, which is the medicaltruthpodcast.com, so they’ll have access to all the links to your to your work, and I really appreciate it. The other thing I wanna mention, too, one other thing is that it’s so obvious that we’re where we’re at with this whole thing, that, like you were mentioning, you’re getting death threats and they wanna shut you down. So what does that tell the people that are listening and viewing this is that it’s obvious. If they were being forthright and honest with everything, there would be some healthy dialogue between two sides, opposing sides of this issue like there had been in the past with other things, but that’s not the case. So it’s obvious what’s going on here,

William Makis, M.D.: 1:07:12

that’s right. If this is not about health, the, the, this, no, the pharmaceutical industry doesn’t care about the health, safety, and wellbeing of people. That’s why they’re trying to, silence us. And like I said, some of these attacks are coming from other doctors. Doctors that have been pushing the mRNA products. Oh, yeah. Especially doctors in Canada. They are attacking me viciously. Sure. And there’s a lot of people who got rich off, this toxic, these toxic pharmaceutical products. A lot of people got rich, a lot of people got famous. A lot of people got promotions, they got better jobs. Don’t un underestimate there. There’s a very large group of malicious, malevolent people that are pushing these toxic pharmaceutical products and they’re gonna do anything to keep this gravy train going.

James Egidio: 1:07:57

Oh, yeah. Or they’re afraid to lose their jobs too. Because I was even interviewing Dr. Scott Jensen here in the States, and he was talking about I think it was like in the last two years, 10% of the physicians in the United States have contemplated suicide. So they don’t wanna lose their jobs. They got house payments, they have car payments, they gotta support families, put food on the table so they don’t wanna lose their jobs. So it’s like eating away at their conscience that they can’t be reporting the things that they really wanna report of what’s going on in these hospitals and everywhere else.

William Makis, M.D.: 1:08:31

Yeah, absolutely. There’s been skyrocketing suicides Yeah. Among doctors and other healthcare professionals. Yeah. Yeah. It’s a serious problem.

James Egidio: 1:08:39

Yeah. This is worldwide genocide as far as I’m concerned.

William Makis, M.D.: 1:08:42

We’re losing a lot of people, excess deaths in the United States, in the hundreds of thousands and Canada tens of thousands. And that’s just in the last, year and a half. And it doesn’t seem to be getting better. It seems to be getting worse.

James Egidio: 1:08:54

Yeah. Keep up the good work and I really appreciate you being very courageous with this effort and it’s awesome. I will do everything I can on my end to keep putting the word out there your, the word that you put out as well.

William Makis, M.D.: 1:09:06

Thank you very much. Thanks for having

James Egidio: 1:09:08

me. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thanks.